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    Posted: 16 Apr 2008 at 11:23pm
Uh oh. Advertisers have discovered that we all want to be healthy.
That's right, none of us wants to die.

All of a sudden things that will kill us and make us fat are being advertised as part of a healthy lifestyle. Chips. Crackers. Soda. Fast food. Chain restaurants.
"Look! You can still eat at McDonald's. We have salads. Salads with 50 grams of fat, but hey, it looks like you're making an effort! Our 35-fat-gram chicken strips are all white meat!"
"Hey, it's okay to eat at Friday's, we have an Atkins-approved menu! Dr. Atkins approved it posthumously, isn't that awesome?"

Here's the news. If it comes in a package. It's probably not good for you.
If they serve it at a restaurant. It's probably not good for you.
Basically if it's not a carrot, it's probably not good for you.

It's not in the advertisers' best interest for us to be healthy. They want us lacking. They want to sell us anything to fill that unsatisfied place in our lives. Chicken Selects won't turn your keg into a six-pack. And select is not a noun. Damn them.
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I hear that sh*t!! I'm beginning to believe that MSG stands for Main Substance Gobbled, by the American public!! Man the sh*t they're putting in our food is...................frightening!!!
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Been eating fairly healthy food for awhile now.  It sucks.  Haven't had pizza in a year.  Cry
 

No doubt there's some healthy version of pizza out there.  But that's all it is or could ever be---a version.

 

 
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Britastar posted this article a long time ago.  I'll re-post it.  It's f*ckin' hilarious!!
 
 
 
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I love that article
The Onion has our number.
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LOL, OK so educate me. I know the Onion is infamous for parody, so is any part of that article true or is it all a joke? I don't read the Onion a lot so I'm not familiar with their format. Actually I don't think I have only ever read anything from them unless I am pointed in their direction. LOL
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Wild Starchild...there's often a thread of truth in their stories.  As I recognize the packaging (though not the flavors) in the photo as that of Frito-Lay snacks I've bought, I'm guessing that this story probably came out around the same time as those products did.  Maybe there was an "announcement" of some sort about them---maybe to the Frito-Lay shareholders or to some supermarket association or something.  Plus, in light of the preponderance of some really horrible-sounding healthy snack chips out there...
 
 
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Originally posted by NathanAlexander NathanAlexander wrote:


If they serve it at a restaurant. It's probably not good for you.
 
I don't think even good restaurants are very much interested in serving healthy meals.  They may use better ingredients, but that doesn't necessarily mean healthier.  For instance, they may use real butter or real cream in a dish, but butter and cream are not actually "healthy".  I think chefs are primarily interested in serving delicious high-quality food, but that doesn't necessarily translate to "healthy".
 
Another example.  A good baker would probably use real sugar in his desserts---as opposed to Splenda---even though Splenda is not linked to diabetes or other health problems.
 
 
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I have been complaining about KFC changing their chicken cooking oil because it does NOT taste the same as it did when I was growing up.  I no longer eat there because I feel that I should have a choice on "unhealthy" oil-cooked chicken if I so desire.  Even cereals that I grew up with have been changed and do not taste the same anymore.  I remember when Coco Puffs where hollow and delicious!
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Originally posted by DARK FATHER DARK FATHER wrote:

I have been complaining about KFC changing their chicken cooking oil because it does NOT taste the same as it did when I was growing up.  I no longer eat there because I feel that I should have a choice on "unhealthy" oil-cooked chicken if I so desire.  Even cereals that I grew up with have been changed and do not taste the same anymore.  I remember when Coco Puffs where hollow and delicious!
 
Ever seen Demolition Man? Won't be long till everything that is deemed bad for you will be outlawed and all restaurants will be Taco Bells!! ROFLMMFAO!!!
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Along these lines, I am also amused when product labels say something like, "made with all natural ingredients!" so that people will think they're getting some incredibly healthy thing. Technically, mercury and lead could be considered "natural ingredients"!
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Here's a riot:

I've recently read the ingredients list on a 32 liter bottle of Pepsi I've taken home and under ingredients the last one it actually said, no lie "natural flavors", umm natural flavors of what exactly??? Last time I checked Pepsi didn't taste like anything natural, last time I've checked Pepsi tasted like Pepsi which is soda, which is last time I've checked is chemicals that are mixed into a formula to create a beverage.
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Originally posted by NathanAlexander NathanAlexander wrote:

That's right, none of us wants to die.
 
Speak for yourself!  Who wants to live in world with $4/gal gas, $3/doz eggs and $8/pak cigarettes?
 
The smokes thing really bothers me.  I mean afterall, isn't kind of cruel to be jacking up the price on very thing that we are trying to commit suicide with?
 
But, I guess I see your point.  Those stupid McDonald's adds where they have the mom and kid eating lunch and they superimpose the "premium salad for me" makes me want to hurl cherry tomatoes.  The whole "eat at McDonald's cuz burgers aren't the only thing we salt the hell out of" schtick is really dumb.
 
Furthermore, as I wrap up this rant, precisely where is it written that you CAN'T eat fattening food and stay healthy?  If McDonald's really wanted us to be healthy they would change their slogan to "I'm Lovin' It (but only twice a week and please limit your caloric, fat and sodium intake to 25% of your daily allowance while dining in our restaurant).
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Originally posted by yutolia yutolia wrote:

Along these lines, I am also amused when product labels say something like, "made with all natural ingredients!" so that people will think they're getting some incredibly healthy thing. Technically, mercury and lead could be considered "natural ingredients"!


snake venom is all natural. No artificial ingredients at all.
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This...this this this this this.. Healthy.  Healthy my lily-white arse.
 
I was at the corner store the other day and noticed a display of Oh-Henry bars.  The regular ones, and right next to them the new 'Now with 14 grams of protein!!'.  Oh goody, a healthy candy bar... wait a minute.  Oh Henry has peanuts in it.  It's ALWAYS had peanuts in it.  And peanuts have protein.  They're famous for it.
 
Head, meet desk. 
 
This will fool a lot of people who are more than willing to be fooled.  I'll stop there. For now.  This is one subject on which I've got a LOT of pent-up ranting poorly suppressed.
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Now at Stop and Shop KID FRIENDLY CHECKOUTS!!!Ermm

ones with no tabloids (yay!!!) but also they lack candy (boooooooooooooooooo) at least they're clearly specified and don't pertain to every single line, but still I don't think it would that freaking hard to tell your kid whats unhealthy, geeez stop relying on companies and the government like a crutch to do your job, take the responsibility for crying out loud!!!!!

I didn't suffer for not having these extra things specified, so why do they think it's necessary for the store to mark out areas for parents to tell where there they can avoid the least bit of exposure from DEADLY candy and EYE PARALYZING tabloids? THINK for once! You're a parent not an escort service.



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Originally posted by Sliver Slave Sliver Slave wrote:

Originally posted by yutolia yutolia wrote:

Along these lines, I am also amused when product labels say something like, "made with all natural ingredients!" so that people will think they're getting some incredibly healthy thing. Technically, mercury and lead could be considered "natural ingredients"!


snake venom is all natural. No artificial ingredients at all.


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I for one will applaud them on what they are trying to do.  Which is to make this Country healthier.  God knows that most of the Country does need help with that. 
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Originally posted by Ad nauseous Ad nauseous wrote:

Now at Stop and Shop KID FRIENDLY CHECKOUTS!!!Ermm

ones with no tabloids (yay!!!) but also they lack candy (boooooooooooooooooo) at least they're clearly specified and don't pertain to every single line, but still I don't think it would that freaking hard to tell your kid whats unhealthy, geeez stop relying on companies and the government like a crutch to do your job, take the responsibility for crying out loud!!!!!

I didn't suffer for not having these extra things specified, so why do they think it's necessary for the store to mark out areas for parents to tell where there they can avoid the least bit of exposure from DEADLY candy and EYE PARALYZING tabloids? THINK for once! You're a parent not an escort service.





Ad, you don't have kids, do you? 

They PUT the candy there for a reason--actually, for two reasons:  impulse buying and kids.  But since you brought up the kids, we'll just deal with that for the moment. 

It's difficult enough to go shopping with a child.  If they're very young, they like to grab the candy while you're standing in line.  Ever notice how colorful the wrappers are?  Makes for a very enticing target for kids.  Little ones love brightly colored, shiny things, and that display is irresistible.  So they grab, or if they're older, they beg.  Yes, it's up to the parent to say no, but why put us through more stress than necessary?  Shopping is stressful enough!

As a parent, I was VERY happy on those rare occasions when I happened on a candy-free check-out counter.

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They also place kids' cereals on the lower shelves in supermarkets.
 
I don't have kids, but I do see how various friends of mine deal with giving in to their kids' demands.  Most just give the kids what they want.  However, one good friend of mine has twin 4 y/o's (a girl and a boy).  They're the happiest kids I know, but they are not given lots of junk, and are not allowed to whine when they don't get what they want.  When Mom or Dad says no, they actually mean it, and no amount of pestering is going to work.  Even if they get pouty about something, the kids HAVE TO stop being pouty.  No questions.
 
I saw it last night.  The boy wanted to do something, and Dad said no.  The kid, displeased, took out his anger by grabbing a notepad from his sister's hand.  Dad said "You can't do that, Charlie.  Go to your room...and No whining."  The kid looked sad, but he did exactly that, with no fuss.
 
My friend grew up in a large family where chaos would have ensued if the kids ran the show.  As a result, he seems to know how to deal with his kids very well.  His wife, who comes from a family with two kids, is easier on them, and gets frustrated more quickly.  But it's rare that this happens.  When it does, Dad takes over.
 
Also, the kids don't have a million junky toys around the house, so they don't have any expectation that they're going to acquire more when they go shopping.  They know that toys are only gotten on birthdays and Christmas.  Same with candy and junk food.  I bring them cookies from my cabinet fairly often---one each---and they see it as some sort of big treat, whereas other friends' kids come to my house demanding stuff, and then expecting more.
 
Anyway, my general observation is that kids who know from the start exactly what the rules are, and who's boss, are kids who are most secure in their own lives.  And the same goes for the parents.  Mixed messages confuse kids.
 
 
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One thing that irks me is when parents tell the kids that by throwing in the word "please" they'll get whatever they want.  Another friend of mine had his 3 y/o at my house recently.  She wanted an ice pop from my freezer, but Dad wouldn't allow her to have one until she said "please".  She wouldn't do it, just kept demanding one more and more vehemently.  Finally, my friend said to me "Just give her one".  I said no.  My friend was pissed at me.  For the sake of the friendship, I ended up giving her one.
 
As a result, I find myself caring less and less about his kids. 
 
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Originally posted by FaithSF FaithSF wrote:

Originally posted by Ad nauseous Ad nauseous wrote:

Now at Stop and Shop KID FRIENDLY CHECKOUTS!!!Ermm

ones with no tabloids (yay!!!) but also they lack candy (boooooooooooooooooo) at least they're clearly specified and don't pertain to every single line, but still I don't think it would that freaking hard to tell your kid whats unhealthy, geeez stop relying on companies and the government like a crutch to do your job, take the responsibility for crying out loud!!!!!

I didn't suffer for not having these extra things specified, so why do they think it's necessary for the store to mark out areas for parents to tell where there they can avoid the least bit of exposure from DEADLY candy and EYE PARALYZING tabloids? THINK for once! You're a parent not an escort service.





Ad, you don't have kids, do you? 

They PUT the candy there for a reason--actually, for two reasons:  impulse buying and kids.  But since you brought up the kids, we'll just deal with that for the moment. 

It's difficult enough to go shopping with a child.  If they're very young, they like to grab the candy while you're standing in line.  Ever notice how colorful the wrappers are?  Makes for a very enticing target for kids.  Little ones love brightly colored, shiny things, and that display is irresistible.  So they grab, or if they're older, they beg.  Yes, it's up to the parent to say no, but why put us through more stress than necessary?  Shopping is stressful enough!

As a parent, I was VERY happy on those rare occasions when I happened on a candy-free check-out counter.



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I thought the implementation it was as a response to obesity only. I thought it was an attempt to paint every single kid as going to be obese even though every kid doesn't have the same heath history. I was proven wrong. However, HOWEVER, I will never get those huge boxes displaying the ratings on the TV covering a giant part of the TV screen with their billions and billion of combination of abbreviated letters  (what the heck happened to "Warning: The following TV program depicts scenes that may not be appropriate to some (young) viewers parental discretion is advised" which was straight to the point, instead of this annoying letter stuff, or just keep it more CLEARER like the video game rating system), that damn e/i bug, and "customers with infant parking ONLY" signs (which aren't even part of any current federal/state law). I'll never get stuff like that, or the fact that McDonald's is trying to depict itself as healthy, or even General Mills sugary cereals are now saying their filled with Calcium (with no scientific PROOF to back it up on their ads.) Call me a skeptic when corporations try to cover their asses with things they pulled out of the same place.

I'm glad I was proven wrong on this one though.
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The kid-friendly aisles - I love.  Why I prefer them is for safety more than the candy.
 
Kids love to crouch down and inspect the shelves.  Some kids (not mine!) just help themselves.  It's a pain in the neck to maneuver the cart with them in the way, and it's a danger to the kids for them to be down there (and they move fast; you can't always see where they are).
 
I've only seen the "With Infant" parking at stores where they feature "infant" things, and some grocery stores.  When that description fit me, I was so appreciative.  Those baby carriers are heavy - and for mothers with toddlers or any children under 4 feet as well - it's nerve wracking/terrifying at times to make it across a parking lot safely.  God help you if teenagers are driving through.  I'm happy to let people with infants park up front.
 
Ratings on TV: good point.
 
McDonald's: it seems as though they're just dabbling in healthy choices on their menu.  Like the McRib, it won't take unless the consumers support this effort.  If they were really concerned about our health, they'd sell "small" fries and sodas again, and not introduce new sandwiches that contain deep fried chicken on a fat laden biscuit, for breakfast.
 
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I guess it depends on which "study of the moment" they are using as a filler story on the news.
 
Not too long ago, within a period of about a week, I heard the following;
 
1. Several beers daily is good for your heart.
 
2. Six or seven cups of coffee daily are good for your heart.
 
3. A component in tomatoes is good for your heart.
 
So if the "studies" are accurate, if I drink 4-6 beers daily, have 6 or 7 cups of coffee daily and eat two large pizzas, I should never have heart problems. Of course my liver and the rest of my body will fall apart, but my heart should still be in good shape.
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