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musicman
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Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 8:21pm |
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Come to think of it. An easy way to remember the possive spelling is to think of the word heir.
heir/e(ə)r/
An heir gets all of their possesions.
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Jimbo
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 12:47am |
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A younger sister of an old former friend of mine, once asked their mother if they were having Swedish meatballs for dinner that night, but it came out Smedish weatballs.
So from then on, hence forth & forever more, Swedish meatballs were always called Smedish weatballs in their house.
My dad used to purposely mispronounce words just for fun & of course, my mom would always bust his ass for it.
She just never understood.
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Hootman
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 1:01am |
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I find great joy in mispronouncing names. It drives my daughter crazy.
Some of her favorites are...Jay Leeeno, Osamma Bin Layden, and Barrick Obayma. The spellings are supposed to indicate the way I pronounce them |
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Jimbo
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 1:17am |
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I enjoy doing that too, but some people don't find it amusing when you mispronounce their name.... even in harmless fun.
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 1:27am |
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I pronounce anise "ahh-neece". That's ahh as in rat. The correct pronunciation is annus, which is how I pronounce anus, 'cuz annus sounds funnier, and annuses are funny, but should have nothing to do with anise.
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Thor
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 1:31am |
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I also say arrove instead of arrived. It sounds better, and seems like a perfectly good word to me.
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musicman
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 7:08am |
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One more thing that makes the English language weird.
You don't say, I drived and drived until I arrived and you don't say I drove and drove until I arrove.
Though with the similarity in spelling you would think one of those versions would be correct.
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 1:57pm |
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Not to mention the spelling of "weird"---y'know, the whole i before e except after c thing that applies to every word except "weird" and a few other words. And why not after c, anyway?
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Thor
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 2:16pm |
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I think we should get rid of the who/whom whoever/whomever thing. There seems to be no point to it, and just confuses everyone. Plus, there are exceptions which make it all the more confusing.
Which is correct?
a. I will buy a car from whomever has the lowest price.
b. I will buy a car from whoever has the lowest price.
Some grammar types say that "whomever" is correct, as it's the object of the preposition "from". Others say that "whoever" is correct because it also serves as the subject of that second part of the sentence ("has the lowest price") and when it's the subject, "whoever" should win out.
Who needs this crap? If grammarians disagree on this, who's to say who's right? I say, get rid of those rules altogether. Too much hassle.
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Jimbo
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 2:53pm |
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And WHOM might you suggest should be empowered to rid our language of these words?
WHOMEVER it would be, would have to be someone WHO would wield enormous power I presume. |
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 3:13pm |
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The President of the United States. Or Lady Gaga. |
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Posted: 03 Mar 2012 at 9:43pm |
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Another English idiosyncrasy is the word who. Where who is pluralized by adding and m instead of the usual s. Though in the case of who adding an as makes it sound possesive. In fact who sounds just like you and you don't say youm when you are talking to a crowd in second person. Though some in rural areas choose to say yous. |
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Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 3:12am |
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See? This is how trouble gets started.
First people start agitating to get rid of perfectly sensible rules of grammar.
Then, before you know it, decent people like me have to buy guns and ammo, and barricade ourselves in our homes to fight off the roving mobs of anarchists trying to break in and pillage us.
Eventually, we're all back in the stone age, huddling around a fire in some dank cave and, if we get a toothache, we'll have to knock the tooth out with a rock and no novocaine.
Studying the proper usage of "who" and "whom" doesn't seem so bad now, does it?
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Hundreds of threads killed.
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Thor
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Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 1:38pm |
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I also support ending sentences in prepositions.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 1:49pm |
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I end sentences with periods.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 9:05pm |
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Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 11:34pm |
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"Going viral".
I am just sick of hearing that crap.
Especially out of the yaps of news anchors.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 1:57am |
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Posted: 19 Mar 2012 at 2:58pm |
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That's why this guy follows him around everywhere he goes....
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Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 2:39am |
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“Who” is a subjective — or nominative
— pronoun, along with "he," "she," "it," "we," and "they." It’s used
when the pronoun acts as the subject of a clause. “Whom” is an objective
pronoun, along with "him," "her," "it", "us," and "them." It’s used
when the pronoun acts as the object of a clause. Using “who” or “whom”
depends on whether you’re referring to the subject or object of a
sentence. When in doubt, substitute “who” with the subjective pronouns
“he” or “she,” e.g., Who loves you? cf., He loves me. Similarly, you can also substitute “whom” with the objective pronouns “him” or “her.” e.g., I consulted an attorney whom I met in New York. cf., I consulted him."
(borrowed from an article a mutual friend of ours posted on Facebook.) |
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Jimbo
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Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 3:49am |
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I'm sorry, but that looks too confusing to even read!!!!!
I may attempt it later....
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Thor
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Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 2:24pm |
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"Using “who” or “whom” depends on whether you’re referring to the subject or object of a sentence."
I dunno about that. Yes, the attorney is the object of the sentence, but the use of who/whom afterwards depends on how you structure the clause that follows (i.e., the meeting in NY). If he met you rather than you met him, would you say "I consulted an attorney whom met me in NY"? Or would you say "I consulted an attorney who met me in NY"? I say the latter is correct.
In my example, the attorney is both someone you consulted and someone who met you. That is, he's both an object (of the first clause) and a subject (of the second, which I think is called the dependent clause). In that case, from what I understand, the use of the attorney-as-subject takes precedence over attorney-as-object, and determines that he's a who, not a whom.
So, in both your friend's sentence and mine, the attorney is the object of the sentence, but the choice of who or whom depends on what follows. In your friend's version of the sentence, the attorney is the object of both clauses, so it's clearcut that "whom" should be used.
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Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 2:32pm |
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Then there's whoever/whomever.
You would say "I'll go with whomever" ("whomever", being the object of a preposition), but you wouldn't say "I'll go with whomever has a nicer car". You'd say "I'll go with whoever has a nicer car". Even though "whoever" is still the object of that preposition, it's now also the subject of "has a nicer car."
This is why, when it comes to who/whom and whoever/whomever, I say to hell with it. Too many ifs, ands and buts.
William Safire said..."The best rule for dealing with who vs. whom is this: Whenever whom is required, recast the sentence. This keeps a huge section of the hard disk of your mind available for baseball averages."
I'd go a step further and say "The best rule for dealing with who vs. whom is this: go with whatever sounds best. This keeps a huge section of the hard disk of your mind available for talking music and fighting politics."
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Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 2:46pm |
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Intentionally misprouncing words reminds me of an old librarian I used to work for. He was arrogant, picky and loved to look down at people which was funny considering he only had a GED (contrary to some people's belief, professional librarians have a Masters degree; always correct that when I can because so many people don't know it |
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I always pronounce c'est la vie, "see est LAHvee", usually with a real "hillbilly" accent. I love "turd divorce"!!! I'll have to use it sometime!!! |
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