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Topic: What pisses you off?
Posted By: aka ron
Subject: What pisses you off?
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 7:34pm
I had my rant about flood insurance. Insurance in general.
We have some teen neighbors with loud vehicles and NO concern for neighbors sleeping.
This isn't 7 pm, It's 1 am.
We like to go with the flow but sometimes other people cross the line.


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Posted By: msmadz
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 7:39pm
Dishonesty. Really grinds my gears.



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Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 7:54pm
I would never lie to you Ms. mad.
These friggin calls that want to solve my credit problems.
I tried to be nice, leave me the fk alone.


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Multiple endocrine neoplasia type 2...Say what?


Posted By: msmadz
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 8:08pm
Here's another thing that steams my asparagus:

People with their kids trying to sell me sh*t outside the supermarket. I don't care if your school needs new desks, or if your team needs new uniforms. I'm not into sweets so stop waving Girl Scout cookies at me. If I need a jumbo bar of Kit Kats, I could have picked up a bag of them while I was inside the store. And parents, don't you dare give me a dirty look when I decline.

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Posted By: insanity213
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 8:25pm
With the arrival of Spring, those damn birds i.e. flying rats that have begun chirping and squawking away nonstop right outside my bedroom window at the crack of dawn.  Sometimes I wanna take a baseball bat to those feathered bastards.

The weekly emergency broadcast system tests.   That sh*t's not only irritatingly LOUD, but it's like crying wolf .. if it comes up because there really is an emergency, how many people will just dismiss it as a test and pay it no mind?


Posted By: regulus
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 9:41pm
Originally posted by insanity213 insanity213 wrote:


The weekly emergency broadcast system tests.   That sh*t's not only irritatingly LOUD, but it's like crying wolf .. if it comes up because there really is an emergency, how many people will just dismiss it as a test and pay it no mind?


It's already happened. over 40 people were killed in a town in Indiana because the twister (an F-4) struck the town at 1:00 PM, when the Fire Department tested the alarm. A police officer noticed nobody was reacting to the alarm he got on his bullhorn telling everybody to take cover, this is not a drill. His neighbor saw him doing this and gave him the one-fingered salute. That neighbor was never heard from again.


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Posted By: NiteRaidah
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 11:01pm
Essentially everything.


Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 11:59pm
My #1 is the same as Maddy's - I cannot liars.
 
#2 are those that constantly pepper basic conversation with obscene words of any kind - especially the 'F'-word.


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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 2:08pm

Dysfunctional people, chaotic families.

Seems no one from my dead neighbor's family has done anything re the "estate" (lotsa junk, important papers, plus a cat) of the deceased.  Supposedly, the live-in girlfriend (who seems like a tweaker) of Jeff's bro was gonna get a charity in to take what they want as donation, but she hasn't started that process yet.  She wants to take some furniture for herself, but she's waiting for her government check so she can rent a U-Haul.  None of the 3 brothers even went to his funeral.  I have no idea if the landlord even knows Jeff's dead.  His mail is piling up.  

My part in this is that I agreed to feed his cat while awaiting a female friend of his to come and get her.  What if the landlord comes and wants to lock the place up?  The month is almost over, and technically, the landlord can take possession in a few days.  Will I have to bring the cat to my house?  I don't want this cat here.

I wish these people would get their sh*t together.  I understand his mother (who lives 2+ hours away) is grieving, but there's a bro and live-in gf who live nearby who should be handling a lot of this.  From what Jeff's told me, his family consists of a mother, a dead father, several stepfathers, step-siblings, live-in girlfriends, lotsa people who don't talk to each other, drugs, crime, health issues, etc.  In other words, people who can't get their own sh*t together, let alone anyone else's.

Even if I wanted to, I can't take control of the matter as I'm not the executor.  But I don't want to and it's not my business, anyway.  I wasn't even close friends with the guy.  I was just the guy who helped him out when he needed a ride or a loan or someone to help pick him up when he fell.

All I want is that the cat be taken.  I hope the friend comes this weekend for her.




Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 2:22pm
I was thinking the other day, are these people counting on "thor" to clear this place out, at his own expence.
 
A rental?  Even more sticky situation.
 
Did they give you any phone numbers?
 
Take the cat to the humane society if you have to.


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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 2:48pm

If they told me they were counting on me to handle matters, I could just say yes or no (I'd say "no").  But, as it is, it just seems like there's no plan at all.

I have the number for the bro's live-in girlfriend.  But whenever I've talked with her, she's just totally scattered.  I also have his mother's number.  Supposedly, she's coming up here sometime next week.  I'm guessing next weekend.  I guess I could call her to find out for sure, but I just don't wanna put myself in the situation too deeply.  I have a feeling these are the types of people who are just looking for someone else to handle things.  I don't want to be that guy.  

My only responsibility is to feed the cat, as that's the only thing I volunteered for.  I don't want to send her to a death sentence at the Humane Society.  She didn't ask for any of this.  But I think the friend will come to take her.  She seems way more "with it" than his family, and she actually asked for the cat, so I'm hopeful.  I just want it to happen now.

I might be jumping the gun in my assessment.  Maybe it'll all come together without me, and soon.  Who knows?  

Also, I just thought of something.  The matter of clearing out the house might not be quite that pressing.  I think tenants have a month before they (or their belongings, in this case) can actually be removed.





Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 3:08pm
Originally posted by insanity213 insanity213 wrote:

The weekly emergency broadcast system tests.   That sh*t's not only irritatingly LOUD, but it's like crying wolf .. if it comes up because there really is an emergency, how many people will just dismiss it as a test and pay it no mind?


I don't mind the tests themselves, I just wish they wouldn't step all over the audio of the program that's on when they do it.

Ever notice how they never run that sh*t during commercials?

Heaven forbid they offend one of their precious advertising customers.

Just screw the viewers over. What the hell do we matter, anyway?




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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 3:13pm

People were pissed not too long ago when the Emergency Alert System notified them on their cellphones in the middle of the night (using that same screeching modem sound) of some Amber Alert situation.

Apparently, this cellphone feature can be disabled, but no one knew that at the time.  Scared the sh*t outta them.




Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 3:16pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

All I want is that the cat be taken. I hope the friend comes this weekend for her.

My only responsibility is to feed the cat, as that's the only thing I volunteered for. I don't want to send her to a death sentence at the Humane Society. She didn't ask for any of this. But I think the friend will come to take her. She seems way more "with it" than his family, and she actually asked for the cat, so I'm hopeful. I just want it to happen now.


The poor cat is probably facing a death sentence anyway, even if that ding-a-ling does take her.

She probably lives in an apartment complex that she'll have to move away from eventually & have to leave the cat behind to fend for itself because she can't have pets in her new place.

Even were she's at now, the cat will probably be left outside all the time to roam around the parking lot & the rest of the complex where who-knows-what may befall her.

I wonder if she's even been spayed.

Which brings me to another thing that pisses me off... people who don't get their pets spayed & neutered.

The dumbasses who live across the street & down a ways took in the female cat those hicks left behind back in 011 & have never gotten her fixed. The cat has had 3 litters of kittens since then, out of which they've kept 3 males which they also haven't had fixed.

Of the 3 males they've kept, one disappeared because they took off for 3 days & left him outside, one I never see outside so all I can assume is that they either got rid of him or he died, & one I see hanging around occasionally. He visits my yard sometimes & recently when the female (his mother) was in heat, he was outside all night sceeching & fighting with a couple of other males that were hanging around all day & night, howling for her.

At least they started keeping her inside most of the time.






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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 3:21pm

Originally, the bro's live-in gf said she'd take it.  That'd probably be a disaster for the cat.  Then this other woman said she wanted it.  I met the woman.  She seems together.  Drives a Lincoln, and dresses business-y.  She owns a house and property.  She currently has a pooch and a 19y/o cat.  So, I'm hopeful.

I just want it to happen...and now!

And yeah, she's neutered.  Sweet cat.  About 5y/o, a little fat, tiniest little meow.  She'd make a good pet.




Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 3:33pm
Be nice if you could contact her & remind her.

She might be on the fence about it & a polite little push could get her to act.

Did you get her name or phone #?


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Great news guys.... With the Air Hawk, flat balls are no longer a problem!!!


Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

And yeah, she's neutered. Sweet cat. About 5y/o, a little fat, tiniest little meow. She'd make a good pet.


"She" would have been spayed.

Only males are neutered.





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Great news guys.... With the Air Hawk, flat balls are no longer a problem!!!


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 3:41pm

Yeah, if she doesn't come for it, I'll get her number from Jeff's bro's gf.  She got it from searching around Jeff's house for an address book, as his cellphone is locked.  Luckily, she found one and it was in there.

And yeah, if she needs a push, I can give it.  "Prissy" is a pretty pleasant cat.  She seems like she might be the affectionate type.




Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 3:42pm
Do it now.

Don't wait.





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Great news guys.... With the Air Hawk, flat balls are no longer a problem!!!


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 3:45pm
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

And yeah, she's neutered. Sweet cat. About 5y/o, a little fat, tiniest little meow. She'd make a good pet.


"She" would have been spayed.

Only males are neutered.




Ahh, yes.  Duh.

I guess, however, both genders get "fixed".  But that doesn't seem like an appropriate word either.  "Damaged" would be more apt, in my opinion.  LOL




Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 3:51pm
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Do it now.

Don't wait.




I'll call her today.  I need to know when this woman is gonna come and get her, as it'll take a little time and effort on my part to round the cat up.  






Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:


Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

And yeah, she's neutered. Sweet cat. About 5y/o, a little fat, tiniest little meow. She'd make a good pet.


"She" would have been spayed.

Only males are neutered.





Ahh, yes.  Duh.

I guess, however, both genders get "fixed".  But that doesn't seem like an appropriate word either.  "Damaged" would be more apt, in my opinion.  LOL




Or "altered".

An old gf of mine had a spayed female Siamese that she referred to as an "it".



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Great news guys.... With the Air Hawk, flat balls are no longer a problem!!!


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 4:17pm

That's why I had no qualms about naming one of my males "Mallory".




Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 4:38pm


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Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 5:14pm
Big smile  That instant Karma is gonna get you.  Hah!!   The neighbor, across the street and 2 doors down, that are idiots, selfish and inconsiderate just went through the ice down at the end of our street. HA HA HA!!
I could still see the handlebars on the snowmobile, They have a jet ski trying to hook a line to it.
 
The cop was just pulling up.  I wish I had my camera.  My new phone has a camera. I'll have to have mama show me how to use it.


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Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 6:29pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:


Dysfunctional people, chaotic families.

Seems no one from my dead neighbor's family has done anything re the "estate" (lotsa junk, important papers, plus a cat) of the deceased.  Supposedly, the live-in girlfriend (who seems like a tweaker) of Jeff's bro was gonna get a charity in to take what they want as donation, but she hasn't started that process yet.  She wants to take some furniture for herself, but she's waiting for her government check so she can rent a U-Haul.  None of the 3 brothers even went to his funeral.  I have no idea if the landlord even knows Jeff's dead.  His mail is piling up.  

My part in this is that I agreed to feed his cat while awaiting a female friend of his to come and get her.  What if the landlord comes and wants to lock the place up?  The month is almost over, and technically, the landlord can take possession in a few days.  Will I have to bring the cat to my house?  I don't want this cat here.

I wish these people would get their sh*t together.  I understand his mother (who lives 2+ hours away) is grieving, but there's a bro and live-in gf who live nearby who should be handling a lot of this.  From what Jeff's told me, his family consists of a mother, a dead father, several stepfathers, step-siblings, live-in girlfriends, lotsa people who don't talk to each other, drugs, crime, health issues, etc.  In other words, people who can't get their own sh*t together, let alone anyone else's.

Even if I wanted to, I can't take control of the matter as I'm not the executor.  But I don't want to and it's not my business, anyway.  I wasn't even close friends with the guy.  I was just the guy who helped him out when he needed a ride or a loan or someone to help pick him up when he fell.

All I want is that the cat be taken.  I hope the friend comes this weekend for her.


We should all thank god he made people like you, Thor.
I remember when Jeff took off leaving no food for his cat,  " Hey, Bill.  You might need to get some food"  Pft!
I always attracted, or lived next to, the old woman, who sometimes needed help.
I was taught to be polite and being sort of handy made me a prime target.
No regrets, always paid with cash , cookies. One lady even gave me an old car.
Find your way out, they may not even know the things you did for Jeff.
RIP . Thor's neighbor.
 


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Posted By: sgtrock21
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by aka ron aka ron wrote:



I would never lie to you Ms. mad.
These friggin calls that want to solve my credit problems.
I tried to be nice, leave me the fk alone.


I have been getting the same offer with the same recording for nearly 2 years. I actually went to the trouble to speak with a real person twice. I tried to explain that I was not interested in "lowering" the 3.25% interest on my VISA to 6.9%! It did not register. They continued to tell me what a great deal I was being offered! I guess they never made it to 4th grade where I learned percentages. Reporting them to the no call list is useless as they have a different I.D. and phone number every time they call.

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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 7:04pm

What Pisses You off?

People that feed off of the weakness of others via illicit trade.
Anyone has the ability to make the right choice, many just aren't strong enough to make that choice.
For that reason alone, drug dealers reside in the 'Top Five'.
Too many good people ruined, too many families broken, too much social baggage for our tax dollars to carry.
Police units are often rife with corruption and will only slow the flow at times when the public has a say in their futures - election time. These days, so many police are lily-livered self-serving, payslip collectors, stuck with a few real cops. As much as I hate to say it, my good friend the local police chief, has only a few real cops - the rest remind me of 'Boy Scouts' being baby-sat.
The 'spine' I was so used to has disintegrated; the brutal determination and focus of the 'Keep Our Streets And Neighborhoods Clean' and 'Storm Trooper Days' are things of the past - they belong to the previous generation, when we had real 'Public Protectors'.  
In the case of drug dealing,  I am about at the point of having no issue with vigilantes - let nature take its course, let the police act as 'mop-up girls' and supply the body bags and pick-up/clean-up service.
 
 


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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by aka ron aka ron wrote:

 We should all thank god he made people like you, Thor.
I remember when Jeff took off leaving no food for his cat,  " Hey, Bill.  You might need to get some food"  Pft!
I always attracted, or lived next to, the old woman, who sometimes needed help.
I was taught to be polite and being sort of handy made me a prime target.
No regrets, always paid with cash , cookies. One lady even gave me an old car.
Find your way out, they may not even know the things you did for Jeff.
RIP . Thor's neighbor.
 

Yeah, that pissed me off.  Funny how I totally forgot about that, since he died.  It's weird going into his house these days.  Apparently, he banged his head on the bathroom wall when he went down. and even though his mother gave it a quick wipe, there's still a blood smear there.

I'm always willing to help people out with whatever I can.  Small loans, car rides, help move furniture, minor labor, take care of pets---that sort of thing.  I enjoy it.  I have some good neighbors.  In fact, I can't think of any I really dislike.




Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 7:10pm


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Multiple endocrine neoplasia type 2...Say what?


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 7:15pm
Originally posted by PaWolf PaWolf wrote:

What Pisses You off?

People that feed off of the weakness of others via illicit trade.
Anyone has the ability to make the right choice, many just aren't strong enough to make that choice.
For that reason alone, drug dealers reside in the 'Top Five'.
Too many good people ruined, too many families broken, too much social baggage for our tax dollars to carry.
Police units are often rife with corruption and will only slow the flow at times when the public has a say in their futures - election time. In the case of drug dealing,  I am about at the point of having no issue with vigilantes - let nature take its course, let the police act as 'mop-up girls' and supply the body bags and pick-up service.

I did my share of illicits when I was younger.  None in many years, though.  In fact, since then, I've become pretty anti-drug.  





Posted By: sgtrock21
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 7:16pm
Originally posted by PaWolf PaWolf wrote:

My #1 is the same as Maddy's - I cannot liars.
 

#2 are those that constantly pepper basic conversation with obscene words of any kind - especially the 'F'-word.


I was stuck with a total idiot for 1 month training and 7 months overseas. One day he was assaulting my ears with one of his rambling BS stories. Out of curiosity I counted the 'F'-word or some derivative of the 'F'-word used 27 times in about a 2 minute period!

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Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 7:16pm
Originally posted by sgtrock21 sgtrock21 wrote:



  [/QUOTE] Jeez Sarge, I have tried everything. We even had a non-published number, here when we first moved in.
Telling them, "I'm sorry, we don't carry any debt."
I think when I started cussing them out I became a target for all the freetime these losers have.
Then I crossed the line of "your mama is here with my dick in her mouth"
Fk off, you aimless loser telemarketers. I'm sure I'm paying your welfare payment in some strange way.


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Posted By: sgtrock21
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 7:25pm
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Originally posted by insanity213 insanity213 wrote:

The weekly emergency broadcast system tests.   That sh*t's not only irritatingly LOUD, but it's like crying wolf .. if it comes up because there really is an emergency, how many people will just dismiss it as a test and pay it no mind?


I don't mind the tests themselves, I just wish they wouldn't step all over the audio of the program that's on when they do it.

Ever notice how they never run that sh*t during commercials?

Heaven forbid they offend one of their precious advertising customers.

Just screw the viewers over. What the hell do we matter, anyway?


For some strange reason they always run the test during a commercial break here. I don't understand the government passing up an opportunity to screw with us. Of course their still screwing with the people who paid for the commercials.

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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

Originally posted by PaWolf PaWolf wrote:

What Pisses You off?

People that feed off of the weakness of others via illicit trade.
Anyone has the ability to make the right choice, many just aren't strong enough to make that choice.
For that reason alone, drug dealers reside in the 'Top Five'.
Too many good people ruined, too many families broken, too much social baggage for our tax dollars to carry.
Police units are often rife with corruption and will only slow the flow at times when the public has a say in their futures - election time. These days, so many police are lily-livered self-serving, payslip collectors, stuck with a few real cops. As much as I hate to say it, my good friend the local police chief, has only a few real cops - the rest remind me of 'Boy Scouts' being baby-sat.
The 'spine' I was so used to has disintegrated; the brutal determination and focus of the 'Keep Our Streets And Neighborhoods Clean' and 'Storm Trooper Days' are things of the past - they belong to the previous generation, when we had real 'Public Protectors'.  
In the case of drug dealing,  I am about at the point of having no issue with vigilantes - let nature take its course, let the police act as 'mop-up girls' and supply the body bags and pick-up/clean-up service.

I did my share of illicits when I was younger.  None in many years, though.  In fact, since then, I've become pretty anti-drug.  
 
The past is what it was and these are not the same kind of days. For many, these are days without direction, purpose, meaning, or opportunity - except to escape. Those that take the opportunity to supply the illicit means to escape should be put down like any bad animal, with extreme prejudice and without exception - things are too far out of contol.
 
 


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Posted By: sgtrock21
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by aka ron aka ron wrote:



Originally posted by sgtrock21 sgtrock21 wrote:



 

Jeez Sarge, I have tried everything. We even had a non-published number, here when we first moved in.
Telling them, "I'm sorry, we don't carry any debt."
I think when I started cussing them out I became a target for all the freetime these losers have.
Then I crossed the line of "your mama is here with my dick in her mouth"
Fk off, you aimless loser telemarketers. I'm sure I'm paying your welfare payment in some strange way.


[/QUOTE]I'm in the same situation of not carrying a balance. I've been there, done that, and got the T-shirt. Thank god for Consumer Credit.

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Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 7:56pm
PaW, Let me buy you a Molson.
Chill, Find your center.


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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 8:07pm
Originally posted by aka ron aka ron wrote:

PaW, Let me buy you a Molson.
Chill, Find your center.  <<<---Confused!
This is a topic where I do not sway and, in this case, Molson Ice not required. This is firm belief and was MissyD's career. As an 'interested party', I got to see and experience a lot of what many do not - even some things worse than the movies. MissyDWolf did a ton of good, but has been left with a lot to live with.
 
 


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Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 8:59pm
We all try to live right.
Pay our taxes and expect others to respect our rights.
 
There is always going to be the bad element in society. 


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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 9:22pm
^That may be, but we do not have to accept the bad element and, in our own little ways, we can do something about it so as to ensure this world is better than the one with which we were presented. It isn't about us - it's about everyone and what we do to make this a better place for all.

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Posted By: Hootman
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 10:29pm
I live in an area in southern Ohio north of Cincinnati that is considered somewhat affluent.  Heroin use has become common across all levels.  Last week the authorities reported that several overdoses occurred by people using heroin laced with fentanyl.   There have been several od's resulting in deaths.

I have no good answers, but there has to be a way to stop this.


Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 11:07pm
Originally posted by Hootman Hootman wrote:

I live in an area in southern Ohio north of Cincinnati that is considered somewhat affluent.  Heroin use has become common across all levels.  Last week the authorities reported that several overdoses occurred by people using heroin laced with fentanyl.   There have been several od's resulting in deaths.

I have no good answers, but there has to be a way to stop this.
Heroin seems to be making a huge comeback - and THAT is scary.
Fully understand what you are experiencing - we're seeing the same. 
In the affluent areas, it is seems more prevalent amongst high school and college youth, in the cities, there seem to be no boundaries.
I believe it will be collective civil disgust resultant action that may stem the tide, but people will have to remain sober long enough to understand 'cause and effect' of what has transpired and then decide to do something about it. The PSAs don't seem to be getting the message through to people and the police aren't even putting a dent in activity. The Guardian Angels ward off some activity where they are present, but seems this matter requires a different, larger, yet far less visible organization with a very focused mission and the ability to act in a very organized, extraordinarily brutal, yet covert manner - probably a little outside of the letter of the law. Infiltration would certainly be required. 
There will be losers and possible collateral damage, but radical times call for radical action.
A little of that would wake up the political machine and law enforcement and certainly would send a message.
What day is 'Garbage Day'?  


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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2014 at 2:07am

Where there's a will, there's a way.  Someone showed me that Silk Road website on the "deep internet" ("Tor" browser?).  People actually post photos of the drugs they're selling.  And that includes heroin, cocaine, opium, prescription drugs---whatever.  And it gets delivered to you without you having to even leave your house.




Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2014 at 2:37am
Originally posted by aka ron aka ron wrote:

Big smile  That instant Karma is gonna get you.  Hah!!   The neighbor, across the street and 2 doors down, that are idiots, selfish and inconsiderate just went through the ice down at the end of our street. HA HA HA!!
I could still see the handlebars on the snowmobile, They have a jet ski trying to hook a line to it.
 
The cop was just pulling up.  I wish I had my camera.  My new phone has a camera. I'll have to have mama show me how to use it.

Just saw a story on th local news this afternoon about something similar that happened around here yesterday, except it was an ATV rather than a snowmobile.

Two young 20-something idiots were hauling ass up & down their street on the ATV. A neighbor asked them to slow it down a bit because there were little kids playing nearby. They ignored him & kept it up until they lost control, slammed into a street sign & flipped into the brush. One of them died.

Big fun.




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Posted By: PaWolf
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2014 at 2:40am
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:


Where there's a will, there's a way.  Someone showed me that Silk Road website on the "deep internet" ("Tor" browser?).  People actually post photos of the drugs they're selling.  And that includes heroin, cocaine, opium, prescription drugs---whatever.  And it gets delivered to you without you having to even leave your house.


Yea -  'The TOR  Project' ( https://www.torproject.org/" rel="nofollow - https://www.torproject.org/ ), out of Cambridge, Ma.
They mean well, but that kind of stuff is some of the first criminals will roll into their operation. 
Even that can't protect everything.
That would require a little more 'work', but if you can get it delivered to your door, you just trace backwards from the delivery address.
 
 


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Posted By: MrTim
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2014 at 5:01am
I finally coaxed some cranberry seeds to sprout in the safety of my screened porch, then the next morning found most of them munched off.  Turns out roaches have a taste for seedlings (they ate a dozen tomato seedlings too.)  Set out some bait lettuce dusted with bug powder, and also caught the little effers in the act one night.  They got a nice foggy blast of insect spray....  Angry
 
For telemarketers selling you "home improvement" crap, tell them you rent.  Gets rid of them and they cross you off the call list being sold to the next bunch (but I know most of you won't try it....)
 
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These friggin calls that want to solve my credit problems.
 
If it's a live person, tell them you are Amish and don't use cc's.  Then hang up....  Wink
 
Quote insanity213 wrote:

The weekly emergency broadcast system tests.   That sh*t's not only irritatingly LOUD, but it's like crying wolf (...)
 
The "alert signal" they use on the radio here in C.FL isn't loud at all.  It sounds like somebody doing arm farts....
 


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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2014 at 1:57pm
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:


Just saw a story on th local news this afternoon about something similar that happened around here yesterday, except it was an ATV rather than a snowmobile.

Two young 20-something idiots were hauling ass up & down their street on the ATV. A neighbor asked them to slow it down a bit because there were little kids playing nearby. They ignored him & kept it up until they lost control, slammed into a street sign & flipped into the brush. One of them died.

Big fun.



If you die doing something stupid, do you learn your lesson?

That's rhetorical.




Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2014 at 6:08pm
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:


Just saw a story on th local news this afternoon about something similar that happened around here yesterday, except it was an ATV rather than a snowmobile.

Two young 20-something idiots were hauling ass up & down their street on the ATV. A neighbor asked them to slow it down a bit because there were little kids playing nearby. They ignored him & kept it up until they lost control, slammed into a street sign & flipped into the brush. One of them died.

Big fun.


I saw that story when I was looking at news channels this morning. I think it was Miami's ABC station site.
Had a pic of the ATV flipped against the pole.
 
The kid up here was lucky he only made it 25 to 30 yards out where it is still shallow.
The river is high with a strong current. If he broke through where it was 8 ft deep, it could have been  bye bye.
 
 
 
http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/lkl2005/media/1390614_612442602112166_735538316_n_zpsd52d6163.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
 


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Posted By: bwestfall
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 12:19am
People who inherently believe that no one or nothing is more important than they are and that their needs come before ANYTHING else. The world revolves around them. They are self-absorbed and arrogant and usually their wants even come before their children and family. This group seems to be growing daily.

People who are fake and nasty and yet are able to fool other people into thinking they are the best thing that ever happened. Sort of like a modern pied-pipers. The use people, take them for everything, and leave things in an absolute wreck while people around them (though not all) Scratch their heads and butts!

As for 4 wheelers, I really don't see much recreational use for them but if people use them wisely and legally then they don't bother me. Two years ago 4 out of 5 riders where my sister lives went out after dark in a heavy snow and ran into a deep pond (rural area). Pretty damn stupid! I meant to say 4 out of the 5 died. All were from just 2 families.

Obviously anyone who abuses and doesn't care of pets/animals. Spay/neuter and don't chain/tie dog out and never let them run around, etc.


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Posted By: Ad nauseous
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 1:08am
People who get people to vote against their best interests

Politicians

Commercials that think we're idiots

Drug dealers (seriously there has been enough suffering!)

People who think about themselves and no one else.

Gun nuts

Conspiracy Theorists

People who are discriminatory against people who are of a different race,age,sexual orientation, etc.

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Posted By: insanity213
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 4:17pm
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

And yeah, she's neutered. Sweet cat. About 5y/o, a little fat, tiniest little meow. She'd make a good pet.


"She" would have been spayed.

Only males are neutered.






My grandma's cat got both spayed and neutered, well in a manner of speaking anyway.  She was told the kitten was a female when she got it, and made an appointment to have the cat spayed.  The vet was in a hurry and just went by the chart without first checking to confirm the gender before beginning the spaying procedure, and to his surprise the internal "she" parts weren't there .. oops Shocked.   He called my grandma and let her know her female kitten actually came with the old twig & berries instead, then stitched up the abdominal incision and proceeded to neuter him.

Coincidentally, that cat grew up to be one mean spiteful s.o.b. LOL


Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 4:23pm
I'm no cat expert, but I did stay at a.... oh sorry. Wouldn't that be kinda difficult to NOT see?
While spaying a male kitty....Confused 

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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 4:29pm

It's hard to tell a kitten's gender when they're really young.  The balls aren't really out there yet in males.  You have to go by the distance between the anus and the urethra.  A vet, however, should be able to tell at a glance.




Posted By: insanity213
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 4:32pm
Originally posted by aka ron aka ron wrote:

I'm no cat expert, but I did stay at a.... oh sorry. Wouldn't that be kinda difficult to NOT see?While spaying a male kitty....Confused 


I thought the same thing .. not to mention that it seems like gender confirmation would be on the mandatory checklist somewhere between sedating the animal and grabbing the scalpel.  

He was a long haired black kitty, so it's possible the bits & pieces weren't all that visible. But that seems like that would be all the more reason to double check LOL


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 4:32pm

Originally posted by insanity213 insanity213 wrote:

Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

And yeah, she's neutered. Sweet cat. About 5y/o, a little fat, tiniest little meow. She'd make a good pet.


"She" would have been spayed.

Only males are neutered.






My grandma's cat got both spayed and neutered, well in a manner of speaking anyway.  She was told the kitten was a female when she got it, and made an appointment to have the cat spayed.  The vet was in a hurry and just went by the chart without first checking to confirm the gender before beginning the spaying procedure, and to his surprise the internal "she" parts weren't there .. oops Shocked.   He called my grandma and let her know her female kitten actually came with the old twig & berries instead, then stitched up the abdominal incision and proceeded to neuter him.

Coincidentally, that cat grew up to be one mean spiteful s.o.b. LOL

My Killer had an undescended testicle, so the vet had to open him up as if he was being spayed.  I was charged accordingly.

Killer, however, was always the sweetest little thing.  Not a mean bone in his body.




Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 4:52pm
Originally posted by insanity213 insanity213 wrote:

Originally posted by aka ron aka ron wrote:

I'm no cat expert, but I did stay at a.... oh sorry. Wouldn't that be kinda difficult to NOT see?While spaying a male kitty....Confused 


I thought the same thing .. not to mention that it seems like gender confirmation would be on the mandatory checklist somewhere between sedating the animal and grabbing the scalpel.  

He was a long haired black kitty, so it's possible the bits & pieces weren't all that visible. But that seems like that would be all the more reason to double check LOL
I would think they would have to shave, or at least trim the area too.

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Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 5:18pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:


It's hard to tell a kitten's gender when they're really young.  The balls aren't really out there yet in males.  You have to go by the distance between the anus and the urethra.  A vet, however, should be able to tell at a glance.


My mom and dad raised, breeded and showed West Highland White Terriers.
My little sister, 4 years difference, had to tell me how to tell the puppies apart.
I was 8 or 10. It's a little more obvious with dogs.


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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 5:29pm

Yeah, dogs' dicks are right out there.  Cats' dicks aren't.  




Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 5:53pm
I do struggle sometimes with basic concepts.  Wink


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Posted By: insanity213
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 6:27pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:


Yeah, dogs' dicks are right out there.  Cats' dicks aren't.  




LOL  Even as a young puppy they do stick out like a sore thumb.





Posted By: regulus
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 8:12pm
I (Heart) my pet, I (Spade) my pet, I (Club) my pet. (My pet is dead!)


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Posted By: Moochamoocha
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 7:26am
What pisses me off? Do you really want to know? Let's see...

- Stupidity and immaturity in adults.

- Being ignored

- Not being taken seriously

- Slow walkers (seriously, one day I'm going to carry around loud speakers that will blast the song "Move, Bitch! Get Out The Way!" to all those tourists in Times Square)

- People who have no regard for others, especially on public transportation. We don't want to smell your nasty food or hear how Sharkeisha's baby daddy got locked up for the 15th time in two months while we're riding. Speaking of which...

- People (usually teenagers) who have their crappy music blasting through their earphones, or worse, out loud so everyone hears it on the bus and/or train. If I can hear your music through MY earphones, then it's TOO F**KING LOUD!!!!

- This namby-pamby, pussified society that today's kids are being raised in. Lookit here, darling - the real world will NOT coddle you or give you as many chances as you want to succeed or give you an award just for trying. You do it right the first time or you FAIL! In the workplace, if you fail to do your job well, you get FIRED. Mommy and Daddy (or the milkman or the bartender down the street, or whoever your mamma's claiming to be your father this week) will NOT be there to hold your hand through life. Kids today need to learn that, but the schools are pushing this "every kid is special/everyone gets an award" attitude that totally sucks. These kids are going to learn the hard way that life's no free ride and you don't get awarded just for participating. Who came up with this touchy-feely approach, anyway? If I ever get a classroom of my own, I will be straightforward and honest with the kids. You didn't do well on the test? Study harder! You didn't make the basketball team? Suck it up, buttercup, and deal! Try something else!

-People who try to force you to adhere to their way of thinking and get mad at you and call you all sorts of names if you don't. I don't even want to elaborate on this one because my opinions are my own and not the same as everyone's. You don't agree with my way of thinking? Boo freakin' hoo! Get over it and move on!

It actually takes a lot to make me angry; I'm a totally chill person...until you cross that line. Then Mooch becomes The Bitch From Hell.


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Posted By: Papa Lazarou
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 8:44am
hearing twenty instead of two-thousand. Dunno what, it just...pisses me off.

I can understand it when the option is "One thousand nine hundred and ninety-nine", but two thousand or two thousand twelve...does that REALLY take so much time out of your day you have to shorten it by one syllable?

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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 1:33pm

Pestilence.




Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 3:07pm

People who don't return phone calls.  I'm waiting for my dead neighb's sis-in-law to call me with the phone number of the person who said she wanted his cat, but she hasn't.  I've left two messages.  In the meantime, it's cold and wet outside, and the cat only has access to the nasty garage.

What the hell is wrong with people?  Well, in her case, I think she's a tweaker, and such people are useless.  Angry

His mother's coming this Friday to deal with the mess, and the sis-in-law who wants some of the furniture should be there, too.  So, hopefully, the cat situation will be resolved then or before then.




Posted By: insanity213
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 3:31pm
Originally posted by Moochamoocha Moochamoocha wrote:


- This namby-pamby, pussified society that today's kids are being raised in. Lookit here, darling - the real world will NOT coddle you or give you as many chances as you want to succeed or give you an award just for trying. You do it right the first time or you FAIL! In the workplace, if you fail to do your job well, you get FIRED. Mommy and Daddy (or the milkman or the bartender down the street, or whoever your mamma's claiming to be your father this week) will NOT be there to hold your hand through life. Kids today need to learn that, but the schools are pushing this "every kid is special/everyone gets an award" attitude that totally sucks. These kids are going to learn the hard way that life's no free ride and you don't get awarded just for participating. Who came up with this touchy-feely approach, anyway? If I ever get a classroom of my own, I will be straightforward and honest with the kids. You didn't do well on the test? Study harder! You didn't make the basketball team? Suck it up, buttercup, and deal! Try something else!



Clap

You may not get to be a true teacher if you do get your own classroom, though ... I was at a loss for words when I heard about this:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2014/01/06/principal-tells-seventh-grade-teacher-her-students-are-not-allowed-to-fail-n1772129" rel="nofollow - http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2014/01/06/principal-tells-seventh-grade-teacher-her-students-are-not-allowed-to-fail-n1772129
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Forced to abandon my hopes of imparting the same wisdom I had gained through my experiences and education, I resigned myself to the superficial curriculum that encouraged mindless conformity. I decided that if I was going to teach this nonsense, I was at least going to teach it well.

This reluctant, yet effective strategy left ten of her students with ‘Fs.’ The grades did not go unnoticed by the school’s principal. She called her into her office and told her the following:

They are not allowed to fail.”

“If they have D’s or F’s, there is something that you are not doing for them.”






Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:01pm

^  Made me think of aka ron's cartoon posted on the previous page.


I recently came across this website for some alternative school in Milwaukee.  It's for criminal teens, in which they can, apparently, get a high school diploma for absolutely nothing but recognizing how they've been oppressed.

Look at this crap, and click on some of the links to see what the hell it is they're teaching.  Hint:  it's not reading, writing and arithmetic.  

http://www2.milwaukee.k12.wi.us/transition/" rel="nofollow - http://www2.milwaukee.k12.wi.us/transition/






Posted By: insanity213
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:20pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:


^  Made me think of aka ron's cartoon posted on the previous page.


I recently came across this website for some alternative school in Milwaukee.  It's for criminal teens, in which they can, apparently, get a high school diploma for absolutely nothing but recognizing how they've been oppressed.

Look at this crap, and click on some of the links to see what the hell it is they're teaching.  Hint:  it's not reading, writing and arithmetic.


http://www2.milwaukee.k12.wi.us/transition/" rel="nofollow - http://www2.milwaukee.k12.wi.us/transition/




Confused

I especially love the picture of the ironic inspirational poster (on the right with Jay-Z):



I googled that, and here's some of the other lyrics from the song that poster's quoting:

Now every time, every place, everywhere we go
Hoes start pointin - they say, "There he go!"
Now these motherf**kers know we carry mo' heat than a little bit
We don't pull it out over little sh*t
And if you catch a lick when I spit, then it won't be a little hit
Go read a book you illiterate son of a bitch and step up yo' vocab
Don't be surprised if yo' hoe stab out with me
and you see us comin down on yo' slab
Livin ghetto-fabulous, so mad, you just can't take it
But nigga if you hatin I
then you wait while I get yo' bitch butt-naked, just break it
You gotta pay like you weigh wet wit two pairs of clothes on
Now get yo' ass to the back as I'm flyin to the track


^^ Talk about your higher learning! Confused


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:32pm

Lord.  Yeah, there's someone you want teaching kids about vocabulary.  LOL

This school is not doing these teens any good by teaching them "restoration of consciousness", "rerooting the village", "systemic oppression", and the history of hip-hop culture.  They're teaching them to be uneducated and ignorant "revolutionaries" (aka criminals).  DeadConfused




Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:45pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

I recently came across this website for some alternative school in Milwaukee.  It's for criminal teens, in which they can, apparently, get a high school diploma for absolutely nothing but recognizing how they've been oppressed.

Look at this crap, and click on some of the links to see what the hell it is they're teaching.  Hint:  it's not reading, writing and arithmetic.


I think you're selling this school a little short & misrepresenting what they're doing there.

Quote Most core academic courses are delivered via internet utilizing effective, quality programs offered by E2020.

Researchers and curriculum experts have worked diligently to create classes that:

Are aligned to WI State Standards, and Common Core Standards
Are fun and engaging
Address multiple learning styles
Are visually exciting and interesting
Are competency-based (learners progress only when they really understand the material)


I don't see any evidence that they don't teach academic subject matter or allow students to graduate & get a diploma without learning anything.

I don't deny that there are issues regarding how kids are handled & dealt with in modern public schools, but a lot of the horror stories some people love to throw around are often exaggerated or extreme & isolated examples that are not indicative of the vast majority.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of pretty smart kids in America's public schools getting good, solid educations from good, solid, highly professional teachers.

It's not as bad as some enjoy making it sound.





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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by insanity213 insanity213 wrote:

I especially love the picture of the ironic inspirational poster (on the right with Jay-Z):


Think maybe it was the irony that they were goin for?

Or maybe they find that talking to them about reading & vocabulary in the current popular style is a good way to reach them?

As long as what they're reading & the vocabulary that they develop through it are basd on proper English, speaking in dialect or pop slang is not such a bad thing.

The main thing is that they understand that one is proper & the other is slang.




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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 5:08pm

I've seen nothing on that website or anywhere else where anything is mentioned about Math or Science or History (except Black history).  Here's an article about the school.  Not a word about the academics.

http://communityjournal.net/transition-high-school/" rel="nofollow - http://communityjournal.net/transition-high-school/

If anyone's misrepresenting the school, it's not me.  It's the school itself.  Maybe they are all about the "three Rs", but damned if I can tell.  Hell, just look at its very own website.  It's atrocious---not befitting of a blog, let alone a school.

And, "aligned to WI State Standards, and Common Core Standards" tells me nothing.  Sounds like semantics, just like the supposed low suspension rate (3%) the school touts.  Hell, the reason I heard about the school was from reading an article about one of its female students who was recently blown away by a housing maintenance guy after she and a male friend beat him with a baseball bat for no apparent reason.  They both died.





Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 5:37pm
Angry  TWERKING!!  Angry
NOT SEXY!
NOT APPEALING!
NOT ATTRACTIVE!
 


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Posted By: insanity213
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 5:50pm
Originally posted by aka ron aka ron wrote:

Angry  TWERKING!!  Angry
NOT SEXY!
NOT APPEALING!
NOT ATTRACTIVE!
 


But effective:




Posted By: aka ron
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 5:56pm
LOL Oh my god!  LOL
Not the deadly ass matter crack and a half move.


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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 8:01pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

I've seen nothing on that website or anywhere else where anything is mentioned about Math or Science or History (except Black history). Here's an article about the school. Not a word about the academics.


It made direct reference to "core academic courses". That term has a specific meaning & definition, so there's no reason to mention individual course names.

Quote Also called core curriculum, core course of study refers to a series or selection of courses that all students are required to complete before they can move on to the next level in their education or earn a diploma. In high schools, a core course of study will typically include specified classes in the four “core” subject areas—English language arts, math, science, and social studies —during each of the four standard years of high school


http://edglossary.org/core-course-of-study/" rel="nofollow - http://edglossary.org/core-course-of-study/

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

If anyone's misrepresenting the school, it's not me. It's the school itself. Maybe they are all about the "three Rs", but damned if I can tell. Hell, just look at its very own website. It's atrocious---not befitting of a blog, let alone a school.


How exactly are they misrepresenting themselves? I suppose the quality of their website is a matter of opinion, but let's not lose sight of the fact that it's just a website & has nothing to do with what goes on in the school itself.

And I had no idea that you were such a connoisseur of web design.

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

And, "aligned to WI State Standards, and Common Core Standards" tells me nothing. Sounds like semantics, just like the supposed low suspension rate (3%) the school touts.


All you need to do is look up what the WI State Standards & Common Core Standards are & voila! There you are. That's what they align with.

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

Hell, the reason I heard about the school was from reading an article about one of its female students who was recently blown away by a housing maintenance guy after she and a male friend beat him with a baseball bat for no apparent reason. They both died.


So... we have a school that voluntarily & admittedly takes wayward, problem kids who've been in trouble with the law, tries to teach them how to deal with the world, respect other people & generally behave like human beings, while at the same time requiring that they achieve the state mandated level of competency in "core academic courses" (see above definition), but when one or two of them screw up, you take that as your cue to paint them as a failure & heap scorn & derision upon them.

Kinda damned if they do & damned if they don't, isn't it?





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Posted By: bwestfall
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 10:13pm
Mostly online but also other times. I just saw a poster on another forum jump all over another poster because the second poster didn't like a comedian's routine(s)and didn't think she was funny. And here it comes, the first poster says, "you just don't get her," or you don't have a sense of humor. Pisses me off to no end. What it really boils down to is that people are different for many reasons and so see things differently. This little snot-nosed, know-it-all seemed to think if you don't agree with him then there must be something wrong with you. Pr*ck. BTW, I wasn't the poster being judged, however I did agree with him.

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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 10:52pm
Originally posted by bwestfall bwestfall wrote:

Mostly online but also other times. I just saw a poster on another forum jump all over another poster because the second poster didn't like a comedian's routine(s)and didn't think she was funny. And here it comes, the first poster says, "you just don't get her," or you don't have a sense of humor. Pisses me off to no end. What it really boils down to is that people are different for many reasons and so see things differently. This little snot-nosed, know-it-all seemed to think if you don't agree with him then there must be something wrong with you. Pr*ck. BTW, I wasn't the poster being judged, however I did agree with him.


You just didn't get him & you have no sense of humor!!!!



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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 10:54pm

C'mon, Jimbo.  Any actual education they get, is online.  There's nothing on that bizarre-looking website that emphasizes education.  Look at any other school site, and you'll see all sorts of references to actual learning.  

From a website put out by the school...

For the 'school' part, most of your classes are taken on a computer.

"The 'school' part".  The school part of school??  It makes it seem like academics are an afterthought.  Seems there's more emphasis placed on one's "life transcript" (their words).  

And I have a friend who teaches to the Common Core.  He's not fond of it.  He says kids can leave that school without having learned the basics of American History.  He has kids coming into his Senior History class knowing nothing about the Civil War, and who think "the South" means Los Angeles.  He says "how about names, dates, places, facts...rather than articles about whether or not Abe Lincoln was a racist?"

Seriously...that's a requirement under Common Core.




Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 12:11am
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

C'mon, Jimbo. Any actual education they get, is online. There's nothing on that bizarre-looking website that emphasizes education. Look at any other school site, and you'll see all sorts of references to actual learning.


Why do you keep harping on the website? And what is so bizzare about it? It does what most school websites do.

As for the online educational curriculum, I don't know where you've been, but that is a growing trend in all schools. And as they explain on their "bizzare" website...

Quote Online learning is different than "computer-based learning". Students are not left alone with a machine!

Each teacher at the school reviews, assesses and gives feedback on the work that students do. Teachers are in constant communication, electronically and personally, aiding progress every step of the way.

Students are expected to attend school as outlined in their Personalized Educational Plan. They also have the ability to log on and do additional course work from the library, a community learning center, or home.


Just like in mainstream schools.

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

From a website put out by the school...

For the 'school' part, most of your classes are taken on a computer.

"The 'school' part". The school part of school?? It makes it seem like academics are an afterthought. Seems there's more emphasis placed on one's "life transcript" (their words).


That's because, as they acknowledge, there is, out of necessity, a lot more to a school of that nature than just academics. They are trying to reform juvenile delinquents who've been in jail, for Pete's sake. Of course there's a "school part" & another part... social integration, self confidence & self esteem building, etc. You cannot take a student population like the one they deal with & treat it like a normal suburban middle class school.

Anybody should be able to understand that without having it pointed out.

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

And I have a friend who teaches to the Common Core. He's not fond of it. He says kids can leave that school without having learned the basics of American History. He has kids coming into his Senior History class knowing nothing about the Civil War, and who think "the South" means Los Angeles. He says "how about names, dates, places, facts...rather than articles about whether or not Abe Lincoln was a racist?"

Seriously...that's a requirement under Common Core.


Well come on, your friend teaches in California for cryin' out loud. What more do you expect? And maybe he's just a crappy teacher.

But all kidding aside, why are you singling out this one school for teaching to the same Common Core Standards that every other school in 44 out of 50 states is as well?

Why is that, in your mind, a cause for singling out this school for criticism? Is it because it's a predominantly black school? Or are you just looking for another opportunity to take a swipe at Obama?

Kind of a sidestep if you ask me.

And for the record, the way you stated that supposed question about Lincoln, is a gross oversimplification of the way CC seeks to approach a written, in depth analysis of the Gettysburg Address, which is the assignment you are referring to.

A lot of right winger websites are making the same kinds of claims.

Same old propaganda.














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Posted By: Tiz
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 12:42am
Ghetto boyz with their windows down "sharing" their ghetto rap(along with the back dash rattling) with every other GD driver on the road.Angry


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 12:47am

So, Jimbo, every other kid in the country requires at least 6 hrs/day of classroom or personal instruction to get a basic high school education, but these kids can make do with a little bit of online instruction??  There's nowhere on that school's sites where academics are stressed.

I wonder if these kids even get homework assignments.



And my teacher buddy---his problem with Common Core is that kids are not getting context.  That is, they're being told to analyze the Gettysburg Address without having to learn about all that lead up to it.  It's all about the document.




Posted By: verminstew
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 1:48am
Food waste-  I get pissed off when I buy a bunch of bananas, unripe, only for them to turn brown and spotted the next day!  That only happened when I would buy them from Costco.  And potatoes, if I don't store them in the fridge it seems like they sprout within a week.


Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 2:14am
Originally posted by verminstew verminstew wrote:

Food waste-  I get pissed off when I buy a bunch of bananas, unripe, only for them to turn brown and spotted the next day!  That only happened when I would buy them from Costco.  And potatoes, if I don't store them in the fridge it seems like they sprout within a week.


When I have bananas that will probably be turning spotted before I eat 'em, I put 'em in the fridge.  The peel will turn black, but the fruit won't ripen as fast.

But when they get too ripe, I put 'em in the blender with some milk.  Pretty good shake.




Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 2:50am

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

So, Jimbo, every other kid in the country requires at least 6 hrs/day of classroom or personal instruction to get a basic high school education, but these kids can make do with a little bit of online instruction??  There's nowhere on that school's sites where academics are stressed.


I wonder if these kids even get homework assignments.

And my teacher buddy---his problem with Common Core is that kids are not getting context.  That is, they're being told to analyze the Gettysburg Address without having to learn about all that lead up to it.  It's all about the document.


OK, I don't want to keep going on & on about this, so I'll address your post here & hopefully be done with the subject.


These kids have to be in school the same amount of time as anyone else in any other school. It says so on the website. You have no idea how much of their day is spent on academics. To say they "do with a little bit of online instruction" is nothing but idle speculation & fabrication. Every school has time for non academic activity during the course of a school week. And re: the website, again, it's just a website. The school is very small, maybe 200 or so students & a small handful of teachers. How fancy do you require their website to be? You seem to be stuck on that website as if it were directly tied to what goes on in the school.


And if you read the website you seem to be so familiar with, it did say they were self paced & allowed to continue their school work after hours from home. Self paced learning is nothing new or unusual.


Finally, as to your buddy & CC, one would assume that by the time a student got to the point where he/she was tasked with writing a translation of the Gettysburg Address in their own words, then doing a detailed analysis of it, they would have already been exposed to the historical context in prior years' history classes. They aren't giving that assignment to 7th & 8th graders & likely not 9th & 10th graders either. I'm guessing this is an assignment given to juniors &/or seniors who are assumed to have studied & learned the historical context already. If your buddy's students haven't, I guess that may be indicative of the quality of the school he works in or the socioeconomic status of the area it's in.


Of course, neither of us has ever visited the school in person, so either one of us could be right or wrong in our assessment. I just believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt, when there is no evidence to condemn them. The only "evidence" you seem to have is assumption, exaggeration & fabrication.





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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 1:44pm

Diploma or not, if you think all that crap they're espousing on their website is positive, you're blind.  They should be preparing these kids to participate in the world rather than encourage resentment of it.  "Empowerment via a hip-hop curriculum" is bullsh*t.






Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 3:18pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

Diploma or not, if you think all that crap they're espousing on their website is positive, you're blind. They should be preparing these kids to participate in the world rather than encourage resentment of it. "Empowerment via a hip-hop curriculum" is bullsh*t.


I didn't see the words "Empowerment via a hip-hop curriculum" anywhere on that website. Everything I did see suggests that they are working to take troubled, misguided kids with bad attitudes & transform them into positive thinking, functioning members of society while at the same time, requiring them to get the same quality & degree of high school education as every other kid in the US.

Looking at the faculty/staff page of the website, I saw that they employ seven teachers. Two MATH teachers, two SCIENCE teachers, two SOCIAL SCIENCE teachers & one ENGLISH teacher, yet you claim that academic subjects are not a part of the curriculum. Given that they do, in fact, employ teachers in each of the four core subject areas of academic knowledge, I wonder, what sort of "explanation" have you conjured up to explain that?

I think it's obvious that your real problem with this school is that the students are almost 100% black.

You've also made it pretty clear over the years that when it comes to social views, yours can be summed quite simply with... "If it's black it's bad" & "If it ain't white, it ain't right".

Oh, & of course the standard rightwing mantra, "If the gub'mint is involved, or it's paid for with taxes, it's automatically bad." & that public schools are a failure.

Yet you complain when conservatives such as yourself get "unfairly" labeled as racists.

Go figure.








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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 3:40pm

Nonsense.  I blame "progressivism" for many of the problems in the black community.  Always have.  That would be leftists of any color.  They've done awful things to the black community.  In fact, I'll bet that most of the teachers at that school are white.

And, hmmmm...I wonder if Milwaukee is a Dem or a Repub town.  Hmmmmm.

As far as the hip-hop curriculum...

exploration of personal empowerment via the arts and hip hop curriculum are some of the services that will be offered.

Personal empowerment through hip-hop.  Y'mean like those inspirational and "empowering" lyrics that insanity posted?  Let me remind you:

Now every time, every place, everywhere we go
Hoes start pointin - they say, "There he go!"
Now these motherf**kers know we carry mo' heat than a little bit
We don't pull it out over little sh*t
And if you catch a lick when I spit, then it won't be a little hit
Go read a book you illiterate son of a bitch and step up yo' vocab
Don't be surprised if yo' hoe stab out with me
and you see us comin down on yo' slab
Livin ghetto-fabulous, so mad, you just can't take it
But nigga if you hatin I
then you wait while I get yo' bitch butt-naked, just break it
You gotta pay like you weigh wet wit two pairs of clothes on
Now get yo' ass to the back as I'm flyin to the track

http://www2.milwaukee.k12.wi.us/transition/_roc_comm.html" rel="nofollow - http://www2.milwaukee.k12.wi.us/transition/_roc_comm.html






Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 5:26pm
Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

Nonsense. I blame "progressivism" for many of the problems in the black community. Always have. That would be leftists of any color. They've done awful things to the black community. In fact, I'll bet that most of the staff at that school is white.


Go ahead & make scapegoats out of whoever makes you feel better about yourself. The real blame lies with social conservatism for creating the problems that progressivism attempted to solve.

You rightwingers love to blame the progressivist social welfare system created in the 60's for all of the problems in the black community while ignoring the fact that it was social conservatism that put them in the position to begin with. And don't try to hand me your usual BS about Democrats who voted against the Civil Rights Act or LBJ's comments about blacks, blah, blah, blah. You drag out that stale crap right on cue like a trained parrot everytime & we don't need to see it again because it's not relevant in contrasting progressivism vs social conservatism. The Democrats of that day were SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES of the type that dominate the Republican Party & political right today.

It doesn't take a great deal of deep thought or imagination to envision what this country would look like today if it weren't for the progressive social policies you demonize. If you think it's bad now, you can bet your ass that it would be many times worse had nothing ever been done.

Rather than blacks living in reasonably decent housing located in scruffy neighborhoods & collecting govt assistance, we'd have them living & dying homeless in the streets or in lean-to shacks in crowded, filthy, disease-ridden shanty town slums outside of every major American city, similar to the ones outside Rio de Janero in Brazil.



Of course, you all on the right would probably prefer that, since you'd never have to go to them, see them or even think about them, which would be just fine with you.

Progressive policies may not have erased the problems initially created by social conservatism, but it has made them less severe by an inestimable amount.

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

And, hmmmm...I wonder if Milwaukee is a Dem or a Repub town. Hmmmmm.

As far as the hip-hop curriculum...

exploration of personal empowerment via the arts and hip hop curriculum are some of the services that will be offered.

Personal empowerment through hip-hop. Y'mean like those inspirational and "empowering" lyrics that insanity posted? Let me remind you:


What has the politics of Milwaukee got to do with anything? You think there aren't other schools similar to this one in Republican cities? Is Milwaukee in a fiscal or financial crisis?

And as for your misguided assumption & inaccurate accusation of the school employing a "hip hop curriculum", if you'll go back to the link you posted, you'll see that that was referring to something outside the main curriculum called "ROC".

Apparently, ROC involves EXTRA CURRICULAR activities above & beyond the normal school day activities, many of which involve members of the surrounding community.

From your link:

Quote Self-Exploration Groups:

All-Community Meetings:
The THS community will gather for an exceptional experience led by outstanding people from the community at various times during the school year. These powerful sessions will have a social justice/community activism focus that allows our youth to more clearly see our society and how they can change the world for the better.

Socio-Cultural Exploratory: The THS learning community integrates supportive services delivered by community agencies and organizations. Subsidized employment, restorative justice, self-reflection/group therapy, rites of passage programs, and exploration of personal empowerment via the arts and hip hop curriculum are some of the services that will be offered.

Skilled staff from community organizations and Transition staff will facilitate groups for students who are interested in learning how to manage their anger, reconsider their use of alcohol or other drugs, or are struggling with personal or social issues which are getting in the way of their learning and personal success.


And as for those song lyrics... & this is so typical of you... that was one line from one song that was taken out & printed on a poster. That is all it was... a poster. I seriously doubt they are using the rest of those lyrics for anything.

So in typical fashion, all you are doing, is trying to portray as foolish, misguided or even downright evil, a school that utilizes certified, professional teachers of academic coursework in conjunction with professional counselors & community members involved in extracurricular activites, to attempt to straighten out some kids who were headed in the wrong direction, all because you saw one line of a rap lyric on a poster & saw the term "hip hop curriculum" on part of the website that deals with activities outside the normal school day.

Typical rightwing knee-jerk response.

And BTW, the idea of using hip hop music as a bridge to draw black teenagers in, is no different than Christian rock bands using the music that is popular amongst white teenagers to attempt to connect with them.

But as I said, as far as you're concerned, "If it's black it's bad & if it ain't white, it ain't right."
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Posted By: msmadz
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 5:41pm
Neglect and/or abuse of the elderly. You have got to be the lowest of the low. It not only pisses me off, it effin' enrages me.

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Posted By: insanity213
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 5:51pm
^^ Have you heard of the chickensh*t "Knockout Game?"  It's where some typically young "adult" dickless douchebag runs up to a random someone on the street and sucker punches him (or yes, even her) with the intent to knock him or her out.   And it comes as no shock that most if not all targets are elderly people.  I can think of plenty of creative forms of deserving punishment for these pussies.


Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 6:28pm
Originally posted by Madawee Madawee wrote:

Neglect and/or abuse of the elderly. You have got to be the lowest of the low. It not only pisses me off, it effin' enrages me.


Burns me up so bad I can't stand it.

Especially when they beat these old people out of their life savings.

Sometimes I don't know who I'm more pissed off at, the crooks or the victims for falling prey so easily.



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Posted By: msmadz
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 6:32pm
^ I would love to catch somebody in the act of the Knockout Game. Then I would introduce him to "The Dick Stomp Game". Bonus points if I happen to have a baseball bat in my hand. I'd give them a workout in the old strike zone.

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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by insanity213 insanity213 wrote:

^^ Have you heard of the chickensh*t "Knockout Game?"  It's where some typically young "adult" dickless douchebag runs up to a random someone on the street and sucker punches him (or yes, even her) with the intent to knock him or her out.   And it comes as no shock that most if not all targets are elderly people.  I can think of plenty of creative forms of deserving punishment for these pussies.


That crap is sickening. I always hope that one of them gets their ass shot by somebody for doing that.

And it gets caught on video so we can all enjoy watching it.




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Posted By: Ad nauseous
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 6:38pm
The poor always getting the short end of the stick

Some of the shanty towns in Rio De Janero are being demolished for the Olympic venues.

That ENRAGES me!

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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by Madawee Madawee wrote:

^ I would love to catch somebody in the act of the Knockout Game. Then I would introduce him to "The Dick Stomp Game". Bonus points if I happen to have a baseball bat in my hand. I'd give them a workout in the old strike zone.


How about the "Face Slammed Into A Brick Wall Game"?

They might benefit from learning that one too.



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Posted By: msmadz
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 6:51pm
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Originally posted by Madawee Madawee wrote:

Neglect and/or abuse of the elderly. You have got to be the lowest of the low. It not only pisses me off, it effin' enrages me.


Burns me up so bad I can't stand it.

Especially when they beat these old people out of their life savings.

Sometimes I don't know who I'm more pissed off at, the crooks or the victims for falling prey so easily.



Don't blame the victims - the crooks are smoother than a baby's ass. A friend of ours (75 years old?) just got himself his very first computer. Well, someone called and told him he needed virus protection, took over his computer, etc. then said it would cost $172 to "fix" and he thought they were legitimate.

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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by Madawee Madawee wrote:

Don't blame the victims - the crooks are smoother than a baby's ass. A friend of ours (75 years old?) just got himself his very first computer. Well, someone called and told him he needed virus protection, took over his computer, etc. then said it would cost $172 to "fix" and he thought they were legitimate.


Oh, I don't blame them, I just get pissed off sometimes because they're so trusting.

I had someone try that computer "fix" thing with me. I thought they were the tech help dept of my anti-virus company. Apparently, they put their phone number online as such.

I actually went as far as letting them access my computer & look at some system files. Told me it would cost one hundred dollars to clean up a bunch of unecessary files etc.

I told them no thanks.



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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 7:01pm
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:



It doesn't take a great deal of deep thought or imagination to envision what this country would look like today if it weren't for the progressive social policies you demonize. If you think it's bad now, you can bet your ass that it would be many times worse had nothing ever been done.

Rather than blacks living in reasonably decent housing located in scruffy neighborhoods & collecting govt assistance, we'd have them living & dying homeless in the streets or in lean-to shacks in crowded, filthy, disease-ridden shanty town slums outside of every major American city, similar to the ones outside Rio de Janero in Brazil.



Wow.

I actually think they're capable of much more.





Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 7:05pm
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Originally posted by Madawee Madawee wrote:

Don't blame the victims - the crooks are smoother than a baby's ass. A friend of ours (75 years old?) just got himself his very first computer. Well, someone called and told him he needed virus protection, took over his computer, etc. then said it would cost $172 to "fix" and he thought they were legitimate.


Oh, I don't blame them, I just get pissed off sometimes because they're so trusting.

I had someone try that computer "fix" thing with me. I thought they were the tech help dept of my anti-virus company. Apparently, they put their phone number online as such.

I actually went as far as letting them access my computer & look at some system files. Told me it would cost one hundred dollars to clean up a bunch of unecessary files etc.

I told them no thanks.


I mentioned that recently on one of the threads.  My 77 y/o neighbor is always on the verge of falling for those exact calls.  He'll "hear them out" and listen to what they have to say, as if he's actually considering it.  Luckily, he always has to "check with" his wife, who's much younger and a bit more trusting.  Even then, they've often checked with me to see what I think.  I just tell 'em it's a scam and not to even engage with any of these people.





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