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    Posted: 05 Jan 2014 at 11:34pm
ConfusedO.K....now Joaquin Phoenix starred in some good movies, went on hiatus (and went really, really nutso-whacko-baloney!) and came back to us with THIS piece of forthcoming crap.
'Cromance for the Anti-Social', is the best way *I* can put it - and I'm not about to see it.
Fall in love with your computer operating system....rrrrrriiiiiight. I think not. I've known far too many bit-brainiacs lacking in the social graces...sure don't want to see a movie about one. 
 
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In the 80s, this movie was called Electric Dreams. Wink

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Poor Joaquin ... it's been all south since Space Camp.

Speaking of, will Jinx make an appearance in HER as the jealous former e-lover?
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I like Joaquin and always root for him. Some may think this movie has got to be bad but professional critics (several dozen) on Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 92%. There are only two other current movies with higher ratings on reviews.

And last I saw, he and Casey Affleck finally admitted that his "nut-job" acting for that film was just acting. It was all part of the plot.

I think it looks like a really sweet film and I hope it gets some recognition rather than August, Osage County (because of the "big"stars in it and say Lee Daniels'The Butler who got only middling reviews but who many think is the greatest thing since sliced bread--possibly the Öprah" touch.
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I have no interest in the film, but I know several people who say it's great.
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I dunno, it seems potentially interesting. An analysis of precisely what makes a sapient being. Similar to the idea of the Swedish show I'm starting, only that show involves highly-functioning human-looking androids.
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How can people think this is a good movie? Falling in love with a computer? Seriously? Maybe if you're mentally a 12 year old.

The worst movies always get the Oscar nominations. It's like how pop music gets all the attention and grammys, while jazz and classical are crapped on by the masses.
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I'm kinda intrigued with this movie and will probably see it when it hits HBO or Netflix or whatever.
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I read everything everyone is spewing, but I've problems with people who talk to, much less fall in love with inanimate objects.

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Originally posted by PaWolf PaWolf wrote:

I read everything everyone is spewing, but I've problems with people who talk to, much less fall in love with inanimate objects.

I see your point, Pa, but I supposed the time-traveler in me likes the approach because...when it comes down to it, what makes a human is nothing more than electronics. a specific setup of reactions, pathways, connections, a tiny splash of chemicals, and lots of extra wires.

While it's definitely eons down the road, there's not too much about being human or...at the very least, being sapient, that we won't be able to unlock. And what happens then? When we create an OS, a robot, a clone, a...anything capable of thinking, understanding, feeling as we do...well, what happens then? If both beings are capable of the higher-thinking that creates 'love' and similar emotions, then can we really judge and say it isn't real, seeing as love is based in higher thinking, rather than base instinct (particularly that far down the road, where humans will have changed and evolved further)

Similar to the idea of love existing between two members of different sapient species. Both are understanding and have concepts of love, derived from the collective and individual cultures they live in, and if that ultimately results in compassions similar to love, well...

As I say, I do get your point when referring to the here and now, but in theory, I find the idea of this movie interesting, as it boils down to what separates mankind - which is basically a machine created by nature - from the machines they make.
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^You are leaning into what is known as 'Markram's Blue Brain Project' (it is the very real 'Frankenstein' effort).
Although intriguing, I've reservations - when 'perfect balance' isn't achieved, the creation stands a chance to exceed the creator's design, as much as fail it.
*My* concerns? Think of sailing into uncharted waters without a life jacket...there remains value in what one may grasp and control - when control is lost, what is left to grasp?
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See, I'm a bit Davros in my brain, so I lean more towards pushing further than one should, as opposed to taking the safe ground.

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Davros: The only living thing, a microscopic organism reigning supreme... A fascinating idea. Yes... Yes...

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If they tried to make this into some kind of lame comedy, it would get an immediate pass.
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Originally posted by PaWolf PaWolf wrote:

I read everything everyone is spewing, but I've problems with people who talk to, much less fall in love with inanimate objects.


Isn't there some TV show that documents people who've fallen in love with such things as their car, their blow dryer, Kleenex, balloons, etc.?  

Just looked it up.  The show's called My Strange Addiction.

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Balloons?  LOL

I gotta say I'm not sure which is more unfathomable, falling in love with them or developing a phobia for them.

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^  I call bullsh*t on that, too.

To my bro, the sound of rubbing balloons is like the sound of nails on a chalkboard...but he's not gonna have a conniption over it.


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Yeah and notice the show's title is "mustard & pickles are ruining my life" or whatever ... who in the f*ck gets scared of mustard, and what's the basis for the uncontrollable fear???   Snakes, spiders, heights, all make sense as to why they can make you contract a phobia.  Yellow sh*t in a bottle on the other hand, doesn't.


 

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I fully expect anything on Maury to be bullsh*t.  But TLC presents this "addiction" stuff to be real.  In one episode, a woman apparently has eaten her entire mattress.


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Originally posted by PaWolf PaWolf wrote:

I read everything everyone is spewing, but I've problems with people who talk to, much less fall in love with inanimate objects.



This may not be in the same vein as all the philosophical thoughts on this thread, but I know my husband was in love with his '70 Chevelle.   
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I have trypophobia.... So it's possible to be scared of ridiculous things. Though I am not scared of spiders.
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Originally posted by insanity213 insanity213 wrote:


Yeah and notice the show's title is "mustard & pickles are ruining my life" or whatever ... who in the f*ck gets scared of mustard, and what's the basis for the uncontrollable fear???   Snakes, spiders, heights, all make sense as to why they can make you contract a phobia.  Yellow sh*t in a bottle on the other hand, doesn't.


 



well, technically....

Mustard...especially the popular modern stuff, is dyed to look bright shiny yellow. In nature, bright colours like that are used as warning colours saying "THis is poisonous/dangerous" Add to that the fact that mustard actually IS a poison (anything 'spicy flavoured has that flavour due to poisons and toxins in the product. We humans are just immunte to these. THat's why onions and mustard and such have far less need for pesticides)

So I can understand it, in that the "reptilian brain" is reacting to the bright colour and toxic smell of mustard in a way millions of years of evolution have conditioned it to.

And the whole point of phobias is that they're irrational. Being scared of a spider, snake, etc. is normal, but being scared of a toy, a picture, a long sock, snakeskin printed jacket, etc. That's where it becomes a phobia.
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My trypophobia is more like a primitive revultion that makes me think OMG ICKY HOLES FULL OF NASTY WORMS PARASITES EW EW EW EW EW GET IT AWAY FROM ME.


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As soon as I saw that talentless piece of s**t hack Spike Jonze is involved I stopped caring.
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