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Charles Emerson Winchester (don't know the actor) had the upper crust Beacon Hill or even Wellesley thing down pat.

Good point with the 'o' sound; which is probably why I've noticed the accent (and when people get it wrong) for so long.
 
I went to UMASS Amherst, filled with kids from NY and NJ, who would call me "Hahlly."
 
There's an o in there, dambit.
 
Ratzenberger (Cliff Claven) was very close but he couldn't get the 'o's. 
 
Maybe it's something you need to learn as a young child, or you just can't.
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Originally posted by HollyRock HollyRock wrote:

Charles Emerson Winchester (don't know the actor) had the upper crust Beacon Hill or even Wellesley thing down pat.


Good point with the 'o' sound; which is probably why I've noticed the accent (and when people get it wrong) for so long.

 

I went to UMASS Amherst, filled with kids from NY and NJ, who would call me "Hahlly."

 

There's an o in there, dambit.

 

Ratzenberger (Cliff Claven) was very close but he couldn't get the 'o's. 

 

Maybe it's something you need to learn as a young child, or you just can't.


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Originally posted by BrianO BrianO wrote:

Just as Dick Van Dyke set 'British accents by American actors' back by years, so did many British productions, which gave Americans what sounded like a fake 'southern' accent, even when it wasn't supposed to be southern!

Whenever a bad guy has a fakey American accent like that, I call it the "evil cowboy syndrome".  ...Because it sounds like an exaggerated version of some Old Western character.


Originally posted by musicman musicman wrote:

We say Bawston not Bahston as people try to imitate.

Those are different?  *confused smiley*
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Originally posted by Ryan Ferneau Ryan Ferneau wrote:




Originally posted by musicman musicman wrote:

We say Bawston not Bahston as people try to imitate.

Those are different?  *confused smiley*
 
The difference is totally clear to me, Ryan.  Where do you live?  I ask that because my native California friends probably wouldn't see the difference, either.  To them, there would be no difference between Bawston and Bahston.  They'd both sound like Bahston.
 
Similar example:  to Californians (and probably others) "I saw him" would be said "I sah him".
 
In fact, I think the "aw" sound that musicman is referring to, might be particular to just the Northeast.
 
 
 
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All this accent talk made me think of an old Burger King commercial that used to air about oh, I'd say 15 - 20 years ago for an "Italian Sausage" sandwich they were introducing that, fortunately turned out to be short-lived.
 
Anyway, the premise of the commercial was that the mother was jealous of Burger King because her boy liked the BK sandwich better than whatever she had cooked. And of course, the people in the ad were stereotypical NY Italians who spoke in the thickest  Brooklyn accents they could muster. 
 
I still remember the mother pronounced "Burger King" when she was hollering about it out the window to the lady next door.....
 
"It's the new Itaaaleean sowa-sidge saaandwidge from BUHRRRGA King."  
 
It was so annoying, it stuck in my brain for life. Ermm
 
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Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

Originally posted by Ryan Ferneau Ryan Ferneau wrote:




Originally posted by musicman musicman wrote:

We say Bawston not Bahston as people try to imitate.

Those are different?  *confused smiley*
 
The difference is totally clear to me, Ryan.  Where do you live?  I ask that because my native California friends probably wouldn't see the difference, either.  To them, there would be no difference between Bawston and Bahston.  They'd both sound like Bahston.
 
Similar example:  to Californians (and probably others) "I saw him" would be said "I sah him".
 
In fact, I think the "aw" sound that musicman is referring to, might be particular to just the Northeast.
 
 
 
 
It gets confusing.  Boston is pronouced with a short o that sounds like awe, as in awesome.
 
However, in places like Michigan and Illinois, the short o is pronounced ah. As, hot is pronouced haht.  My we brutaly tortured my cousins from Michigan for that back in the 1970's when we were all teens.
 
My favorite band in the 1970's Chicago has that accent totally.
Here's a line from Wishing You Were Here.

♫ But I've gaht my jahb to do and I do it well. So I guess that's how it is. ♫

 
Speaking of the word saw, a true Bostonian (which I am no longer accent wise) would say this,  I sawr it ova theya.  Because we never liked the sound of aw and it together.  It felt awkward so the r makes the transition smoother.   Btw theya is Bostonian for there.
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by musicman musicman wrote:

 
It gets confusing.  Boston is pronouced with a short o that sounds like awe, as in awesome.
 
However, in places like Michigan and Illinois, the short o is pronounced ah. As, hot is pronouced haht.  My we brutaly tortured my cousins from Michigan for that back in the 1970's when we were all teens.
 
 
That's what I'm saying---in California, awesome rhymes with possum. 
 
My cousins in Syracuse, NY used to call my brother Tommy, "Tammy". 
 
 
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Cliff Clavin says:
 'It's a, ehhh, little known fact theyah, that the, eehh, Bahston inflection is not one 'a yer basic easy accents to capture using the printed word, theyah, Nahmie!'Wink
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Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

That's what I'm saying---in California, awesome rhymes with possum.

Yeah!  Otherwise, how could you have "Awesome Possum Kicks Dr. Machino's Butt!"?
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Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

 
"It's the new Itaaaleean sowa-sidge saaandwidge from BUHRRRGA King."  
 
It was so annoying, it stuck in my brain for life. Ermm
 
 
See? Now a real "Italian New Yawkah" from either DA Bronx or Brooklyn would have said "SANKT-WITCH" LOL
 
(And yes, I do know people who really do call it SANKT-WITCH)
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Is that the same as a sangwidge?
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Originally posted by BrianO BrianO wrote:

Cliff Clavin says:
 'It's a, ehhh, little known fact theyah, that the, eehh, Bahston inflection is not one 'a yer basic easy accents to capture using the printed word, theyah, Nahmie!'Wink

LOL

"Cheers" was a great show! Does everyone keep asking you guys if all go to a place where "everyone knows your name"? Wink
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Originally posted by HollyRock HollyRock wrote:

Is that the same as a sangwidge?
 
I've heard that pronounciation once in my life & it was from a teacher I had in 6th grade who came in the 2nd half of the year to replace the one we had the first half of the year (long story). But she said "sangwidge". I didn't like her.
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by J.R. J.R. wrote:

Originally posted by BrianO BrianO wrote:

Cliff Clavin says:
 'It's a, ehhh, little known fact theyah, that the, eehh, Bahston inflection is not one 'a yer basic easy accents to capture using the printed word, theyah, Nahmie!'Wink

LOL

"Cheers" was a great show! Does everyone keep asking you guys if all go to a place where "everyone knows your name"? Wink
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Originally posted by FaithSF FaithSF wrote:

I was trying to edit my other post, but I'm having problems loading that page. (I was having issues loading pages here yesterday, too. Too busy?)

Anyway, I hated Helen Hunt's supposed New York accent in "As Good as it Gets." Sometimes it sounded like she was from Brooklyn, and other times she had no accent at all. It's like she used it when she remembered to.  That was pretty awful.

 
and I just hate Helen Hunt.
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