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HollyRock ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Illustrious Video Moderator Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Location: Mass. Status: Offline Points: 2873 |
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Charles Emerson Winchester (don't know the actor) had the upper crust Beacon Hill or even Wellesley thing down pat. Good point with the 'o' sound; which is probably why I've noticed the accent (and when people get it wrong) for so long.
I went to UMASS Amherst, filled with kids from NY and NJ, who would call me "Hahlly."
There's an o in there, dambit.
Ratzenberger (Cliff Claven) was very close but he couldn't get the 'o's.
Maybe it's something you need to learn as a young child, or you just can't.
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Whenever a bad guy has a fakey American accent like that, I call it the "evil cowboy syndrome". ...Because it sounds like an exaggerated version of some Old Western character.
Those are different? *confused smiley* |
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The difference is totally clear to me, Ryan. Where do you live? I ask that because my native California friends probably wouldn't see the difference, either. To them, there would be no difference between Bawston and Bahston. They'd both sound like Bahston.
Similar example: to Californians (and probably others) "I saw him" would be said "I sah him".
In fact, I think the "aw" sound that musicman is referring to, might be particular to just the Northeast.
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All this accent talk made me think of an old Burger King commercial that used to air about oh, I'd say 15 - 20 years ago for an "Italian Sausage" sandwich they were introducing that, fortunately turned out to be short-lived.
Anyway, the premise of the commercial was that the mother was jealous of Burger King because her boy liked the BK sandwich better than whatever she had cooked. And of course, the people in the ad were stereotypical NY Italians who spoke in the thickest Brooklyn accents they could muster.
I still remember the mother pronounced "Burger King" when she was hollering about it out the window to the lady next door.....
"It's the new Itaaaleean sowa-sidge saaandwidge from BUHRRRGA King."
It was so annoying, it stuck in my brain for life.
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It gets confusing. Boston is pronouced with a short o that sounds like awe, as in awesome.
However, in places like Michigan and Illinois, the short o is pronounced ah. As, hot is pronouced haht. My we brutaly tortured my cousins from Michigan for that back in the 1970's when we were all teens.
My favorite band in the 1970's Chicago has that accent totally.
Here's a line from Wishing You Were Here.
♫ But I've gaht my jahb to do and I do it well. So I guess that's how it is. ♫ Speaking of the word saw, a true Bostonian (which I am no longer accent wise) would say this, I sawr it ova theya. Because we never liked the sound of aw and it together. It felt awkward so the r makes the transition smoother. Btw theya is Bostonian for there.
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That's what I'm saying---in California, awesome rhymes with possum.
My cousins in Syracuse, NY used to call my brother Tommy, "Tammy".
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Cliff Clavin says:
'It's a, ehhh, little known fact theyah, that the, eehh, Bahston inflection is not one 'a yer basic easy accents to capture using the printed word, theyah, Nahmie!'
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Yeah! Otherwise, how could you have "Awesome Possum Kicks Dr. Machino's Butt!"? |
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See? Now a real "Italian New Yawkah" from either DA Bronx or Brooklyn would have said "SANKT-WITCH"
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Is that the same as a sangwidge?
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I've heard that pronounciation once in my life & it was from a teacher I had in 6th grade who came in the 2nd half of the year to replace the one we had the first half of the year (long story). But she said "sangwidge". I didn't like her.
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Norm says:
'Y'know, J.R., that's something I could ponder while having a beer...or, I could just...have a beer while having..another beer!'
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