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    Posted: 02 May 2008 at 5:13am
I am fed up with the annoying sanctimonious right-wing phrase "family values" being plastered all over the media, tied to the ridiculous belief that any family consisting of something other than a married hetero Christian couple and 2.4 children is somehow inherently unnatural or dysfunctional.  Now Burlington is using it to SELL crap!
 
Should wanton consumerism really be hailed as a "family value"?
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I haven't seen the commercial, but couldn't Burlington's "family values" simply be referring to values on men's, women's and children's coats?
 
 
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Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

couldn't Burlington's "family values" simply be referring to values on men's, women's and children's coats?  
 
That's the way I've perceived it, as well.  I don't remember if there were particular families depicted in the ads, perhaps that's what Sharonite is commenting on.
 
However, I disagree that shopping for coats (a necessity) at a low-price store such as Burlington Coat qualifies as wanton consumerism.
 
If they were trying to get us to blow extra money on something we don't need, then maybe I'd jump on board.
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I'd have to check the deepest darkest recesses of my closets, but I'm pretty sure I don't even own a coat.  Unless sport jackets count.

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Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

I haven't seen the commercial, but couldn't Burlington's "family values" simply be referring to values on men's, women's and children's coats?
 
I think it's sort of a double entendre. They're obviously using a very familiar phrase in a way that can be interpreted both ways, both "positive" in their view, but I'm with sharonite on this one. I'm sick of hearing about family values. I hate family values. Screw family values.
 
Ya wanna sell me a coat?
 
Then do it with sex, drugs & rock-n-roll, baby!!!!!!
 
 
 
 
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Ian Dury tried that years ago, but he's dead so probably won't be trying it again.
 
 
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You can cut the clothing, grey is such a pity
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See my tailor, he's called Simon, I know it's going to fit

 


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What color are the coats? Are there more white ones than black ones? THAT'S RACISM!!!Wacko
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No, fortunately they're all light/medium tan & medium/dark brown.
 
Everyone is "covered" so to speak.
 
 
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Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

I'd have to check the deepest darkest recesses of my closets, but I'm pretty sure I don't even own a coat.  Unless sport jackets count.

 
If global warming pans out, New England will be warm all year too! Cool
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Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

Ian Dury tried that years ago, but he's dead so probably won't be trying it again.
 
 
Sex and Drugs and Rock & Roll (excerpt):
 
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I loved Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick!

By the way, Burlington Coat Factory sells a lot of stuff, not just coats. Clothing, household stuff, linens, etc., at good prices.  NOT wanton consumerism at all.  Macy's, Bloomingdale's, Needless-Markup?  THAT is wanton consumerism.
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I think it's nothing more than a lame pun.  You might be reading into it more than you need to.
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I have a burlington coat factory in the mall here.
It's a craphole.
Honestly everything they make is a ghetto piece of crap, and no I'm not being racist, it's ghetto and I have no other word for it. It's falling apart, even the walls have plaster falling off of them, the clothes are crappy, the lighting is crappy, and it smells weird. Like not BAD necessarily but...kinda like your school smelled on the first day. Only ALL THE FREAKING TIME.
I would not shop at Burlington if you paid me to do so.
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I loved Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick!


 
Also, Reasons to be Cheerful.  God, I haven't heard these songs in so long. 
 
 
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Originally posted by sharonite sharonite wrote:

I am fed up with the annoying sanctimonious right-wing phrase "family values" being plastered all over the media, tied to the ridiculous belief that any family consisting of something other than a married hetero Christian couple and 2.4 children is somehow inherently unnatural or dysfunctional.


I'm not sure what belief that you are speaking of. I'm not aware of any belief that proclaims that anything other than a married Christian heterosexual couple with 2 children is unnatural or dysfunctional. I'm sure that there are some who believe that, but the belief is pretty batty if you ask me. I don't know anyone who thinks like that. Also, I have never seen such a narrow view be "plastered" all over the media. What on Earth are you talking about? It doesn't make much sense to me.
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Originally posted by Chicagostyle Chicagostyle wrote:

 
Originally posted by sharonite sharonite wrote:

I am fed up with the annoying sanctimonious right-wing phrase "family values" being plastered all over the media, tied to the ridiculous belief that any family consisting of something other than a married hetero Christian couple and 2.4 children is somehow inherently unnatural or dysfunctional.


I'm not sure what belief that you are speaking of. I'm not aware of any belief that proclaims that anything other than a married Christian heterosexual couple with 2 children is unnatural or dysfunctional. I'm sure that there are some who believe that, but the belief is pretty batty if you ask me. I don't know anyone who thinks like that. Also, I have never seen such a narrow view be "plastered" all over the media. What on Earth are you talking about? It doesn't make much sense to me.
 
You're kidding, right?
 
You've never heard of the Christian conservative right & it's views on what everyone else's lives should be like?
 
I don't see how you could've missed it.
 
 
 
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I don't know the Christians you speak of, Jimbo.  Like you, I've only heard of them.  The ones I know (and that includes a Baptist minister) seem fine with me and my "unnatural and dysfunctional" unmarried, childless life.  The Baptist minister has actually said that, as a single person, I have more of an ability to be spiritual, as I have the luxury of not being as bound to "the worldly" as someone who has to support a family and fulfill all of their worldly needs.
 
Whether or not one agrees with that, it doesn't point to any sort of dislike of people who don't have kids.  At worst, it holds us to a higher standard.
 
So, as far as I'm concerned, the ones who might look down on me amount to little more than ghosts in the trees.  Irrelevant in my life.
 
To take it a step further, I actually hear and read more dislike these days coming from the anti-Christians towards Christianity than the other way around.  Look at CIH.  You're way more likely to hear anti-Christian sentiment here than anti-secular.  Have Mrs. Hill or LOL1955 ever said anything negative about non-religious or unmarried people?  Not to my recollection.
 
 
 
 
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uh...Thor? The name 'Pat Robertson' ring a bell? I guess he isn't known of, here and there...Confused
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Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

I don't know the Christians you speak of, Jimbo.  Like you, I've only heard of them.  The ones I know (and that includes a Baptist minister) seem fine with me and my "unnatural and dysfunctional" unmarried, childless life.  The Baptist minister has actually said that, as a single person, I have more of an ability to be spiritual, as I have the luxury of not being as bound to "the worldly" as someone who has to support a family and fulfill all of their worldly needs.
 
Whether or not one agrees with that, it doesn't point to any sort of dislike of people who don't have kids.  At worst, it holds us to a higher standard.
 
So, as far as I'm concerned, the ones who might look down on me amount to little more than ghosts in the trees.  Irrelevant in my life.
 
To take it a step further, I actually hear and read more dislike these days coming from the anti-Christians towards Christianity than the other way around.  Look at CIH.  You're way more likely to hear anti-Christian sentiment here than anti-secular.  Have Mrs. Hill or LOL1955 ever said anything negative about non-religious or unmarried people?  Not to my recollection.
 
This would've been a perfect opportunity for you to address this over in "our forum" by simply posting a "See my reply over in.... etc. etc."
 
But back to the point, oh wait......... see my reply over in etc. etc. etc....
 
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I thought that was for the occasions when the discussion gets ugly.  So far, it hasn't.  I'll check over there to see how it's going.  LOL
 
 
 
 
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This is the "new Jimbo" you're dealing with here.
 
I'm gonna try to be the "good cop" from now on & at least attempt to adhere to forum protocol in these matters.
 
 
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