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    Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:30pm




I would like to share with you all my annoyance with a certain
collection of advertising techniques that teams think are effective and
so, include in commercials on a far-too regular basis.







1) Item 1 is the
"let's-repeat-the-same-word-said-in-quick-succession-but-by-multiple-people
technique". ForumAdmin has commented on this technique somewhat (here), but hey we all know that everything we've ever said here has been said before, and that there is a 94% chance it was ForumAdmin who said it. Nonetheless, reminders are always healthy. The following Comcast commercial will serve nicely as our
example case study:
The offenses:



This commercial uses this technique not once more than it should, not twice more than it should, but three times
more than it should (the appropriate amount being zero times): first
with the word "Comcast", then with "5 times", and finally with "fast".
Take note of the importance of these three concepts with respect to the
aims of the commercial.







Why I think it's used:



Surely this has some psychological motives. The effectiveness of
Comcast as a product is not a fact of the world, but is a belief; a
belief the company knows it needs to convince you of. When it comes to
beliefs of this nature--that is to say, beliefs that surround products
and companies--one of the more convincing ways to get people to believe
in your product is by communal agreement. The extent to which you the
uninformed consumer are willing to buy into the pitch is directly
proportional to how many people you've heard approve of it, just as it
is with, say, a new restaurant in town. It is no surprise then why this
technique is used. It incorporates multiple people and establishes the
important concepts the company wants to get across by overlapping the
people's testimonies at those important concepts. They want you to
remember them after the commercial is over, and when it comes to
remembering from sound, repetition makes perfect.







Why I wish it wasn't used:


As far as commercials go, I'd rather not have someone whack my brain
repeatedly with what is essentially operating as the auditory
equivalent of a jackhammer.





2) Item 2 is the
"contrast-the-alternative-to-our-product-by-using-black-and-white-imaging
technique". Yes, I like hyphens. Anyway, this commercial will do nicely
as an example:


The Offenses:


An entirely new topic could, should, and might be created discussing
the lunacy of the outrageous claims made in this commercial.
Irrespective of that, we're all familiar with this technique, here's a
step-by-step:





Begin the commercial with an overtly displeased person, preferably pale
and fat, who cannot for the life of them accomplish an extremely simple
task (cleaning up, slicing tomatoes, doing an ab crunch). Here, and at
any other time during the commercial you refer to anything that isn't
your product, use black and white coloring. Next, start some groovin
music and display your vibrantly colorful product, preferably next to a
separate person who is tan and not so fat. Then, dig around in your a**
for some time until you can pull out a statistic that is relevant to
the topic at hand: in this case, the bullsh*t statistic is "3 minutes =
100 sit ups!". Don't forget to put sciencey sound effects behind it,
otherwise people might hear the sound of your sphincter squeezing the
stat out. Do not end the commercial until you have told them how much
they are saving by buying your product, especially if you are going to
throw in a bunch of tangentially related free stuff. Seeing as how you
determine how much all the stuff is initially valued at, make it a big number to
make it seem like the customer is saving a whole lot when you "cut them a deal". Throw in a meaningless "call in the next 30 minutes" bit to prey upon the weak-minded people's sense of urgency.


Also, guarantee the customer something ludicrous, like "you will
lose 10 lbs in 2 weeks!" and then, at the top in very small print, have
something like: Results may vary. That way, you've basically said
"We'll guarantee that you'll lose 10 lbs in 2 weeks, unless you don't,
which might happen too." That's gooooood persuasion.



Why I wish it wasn't used:

The degree to which this type of commercial is effective is the same
degree that an AB EXERCISE would be effective in dramatically buffing
up my arms, legs, and overall physique. And that degree = very little.



So in conclusion Budweiser, my urine also has drinkability.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HollyRock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:52pm
Not only did I read the whole thing again Wink but put the videos in with tube tags rather than links.CelphaFiael - you might enjoy the List of Advertising Offenses which ForumAdmin started years ago, but has been added to by the likes of "us."
Let's try not to be boring, mkay?
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Thanks Holly, I'm going to delete this post and put it all in there.

Edit: Whoops, I can't. Still figuring things out...

So in conclusion Budweiser, my urine also has drinkability.

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CelphaFiael, you forgot a few that are major pet-peeves of mine:

1- "Let's advertise during a show about another show, but instead of simply posting it at the bottom of the screen so people can watch the show, let's put a huge and obnoxious banner at the bottom that is like a mini-movie replete with sound-effects merged to the program's audio channel (so you don't know if the sound was the mid-program ad or was actually on the show), that blocks 30% of the screen for 10 seconds or more, to drive-in the point that they MUST watch this show."

2- "Maybe as people are watching our network, we should advertise our network, so people know to watch our network, and hence will start watching our network......for the commercials of course..."

3- "Let's adjust our regular programming volume for a median-equivalent of a quiet room conversation. Now, when commercials for our sponsors and the network come on, let's boost the volume to approximately 120dB, so that not only do they hear it as they leave to do more meaningful things than to be barked at about how they must buy a new car NOW and watch American A-hole, but also so that they can receive numerous noise complaints from the entire block as we get our advertiser's message through."

4- "Let's advertise American A-Hole with the giant banner to those watching American A-hole AS THEY ARE WATCHING IT.....That will certainly draw in more viewers!"

I don't have any clips to show you, but if you want to see this in action, just watch the "Fox Reality" channel. I'm sure you will see at least five examples of all of the above within any one 30-minute period, and will also never want to watch that channel again at the same time.....or you may become a serial-killer. Try it, and let your ire spew froth here...

P.S. To delete a post, look at the right-hand side of the upper border for "posting options" Click that and delete is amongst a few more options. Cheers!
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If I end up going to hell, I'm sure the Fox Reality Channel will be on in there 23/7.
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The other hour being "The O'Reilly Factor".
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Originally posted by CelphaFiael CelphaFiael wrote:

Thanks Holly, I'm going to delete this post and put it all in there.

Edit: Whoops, I can't. Still figuring things out...
 
FYI...you can't delete a thread you created when someone has already responded.  Likewise, you can't delete a post you made if there was even one post after it. 
 
 
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I moved it.  I'm special.  Star
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You forgot a few others:
1 - "Let's advertise in the middle of a live event! So people know about our products! That way we will spread our word AND be annoying at the same time!"

2 - "Let's let our company donate to a charity! That way people who support that will buy our stuff and make more mullah then ever!"

3 - "Let's be sterotypical! Let us target various ethnic groups and attract them and make more mullah then ever!"

Seriously, these techniques need to die.
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[QUOTE=Prometheus] CelphaFiael, you forgot a few that are major pet-peeves of mine:

1- "Let's advertise during a show about another show, but instead of simply posting it at the bottom of the screen so people can watch the show, let's put a huge and obnoxious banner at the bottom that is like a mini-movie replete with sound-effects merged to the program's audio channel (so you don't know if the sound was the mid-program ad or was actually on the show), that blocks 30% of the screen for 10 seconds or more, to drive-in the point that they MUST watch this show."
I've said this at least once, but if I were a TV actor or producer with a huge amount of influence, I would try to demand that they NOT do that with my show. Because people here at CIH are proof that it's a great way to turn people AGAINST a show (or help decide them against it, at the very least!). And I mean being a "jerk" (ha!) about either of the two things - splashing pop-ups of my show on other shows, or, obviously, the reverse. I always wonder whether that had anything to do with Frasier never having them, if maybe Kelsey Grammar actually threw his weight around in THAT direction. If so, it would be one really NICE case of a huge name actor being pushy, balanced against all the irritating ones.
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I agree wholeheartedly with Prometheus' #1 about all the characters and banners running at the bottom of the screen.  Sometimes they are pretty big, and I hate it when they dance aroung and move towards the bottom middle--very distracting.  And the characters have this smug look--I'd like to squish them like a bug.  All channels do it now, but for a while, TNT was getting very annoying.  I also agree with TheDude's #2 about companies promoting their charitable works, etc.  It is almost funny that companies will take time, effort, trouble to convince people they are good and you should by from them, when if they just treated their employees right and tried to be good business citizens they would do much better.  Also, on a previous post, I made comments about Dawn dishwashing commericals featuring the cute little ducks, etc. that they help clean with their detergent.  AngryBut as I said, P&G, who own Dawn, still test all their products on animals--many of which don't need to be tested anymore at all, or not on animals because there are other tests now.  So let's save otters, ducks but blind rabbits, kill mice, poison cats and dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Prometheus Prometheus wrote:


3- "Let's adjust our regular programming volume for a median-equivalent of a quiet room conversation. Now, when commercials for our sponsors and the network come on, let's boost the volume to approximately 120dB, so that not only do they hear it as they leave to do more meaningful things than to be barked at about how they must buy a new car NOW and watch American A-hole, but also so that they can receive numerous noise complaints from the entire block as we get our advertiser's message through."
 
This. Watching a show at a normal volume level and all is good. Commercial comes on at 150% normal volume- unacceptable. This should be a fine-worthy offense. The state lottery commercials where I live are the worst about this.
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Originally posted by Xybris Xybris wrote:

Originally posted by Prometheus Prometheus wrote:

3- "Let's adjust our regular programming volume for a median-equivalent of a quiet room conversation. Now, when commercials for our sponsors and the network come on, let's boost the volume to approximately 120dB, so that not only do they hear it as they leave to do more meaningful things than to be barked at about how they must buy a new car NOW and watch American A-hole, but also so that they can receive numerous noise complaints from the entire block as we get our advertiser's message through."


 

This. Watching a show at a normal volume level and all is good. Commercial comes on at 150% normal volume- unacceptable. This should be a fine-worthy offense. The state lottery commercials where I live are the worst about this.


I agree this is by far the most annoying thing about commercials, sometimes i put the tv on while working on my computer so i can listen to a show while i face my computer, but then unexpectedly i hear "TIRED OF BEING COLD? THEN YOU'LL LOVE THE SNUGGY!!!!!" It startles the sh*t out of me and i have to stop what i'm doing just to turn the tv down. What they need is an auto-mute for commercials, it's not enough that they're interrupting our shows, but they have to shout above everything else in the room?

I also agree with the banner thing, and i actually have an example of how it can kill a network. They had the WORST case of banner-itus on G4TV, the banners were completely pointless, they just asked the viewer stupid survey questions that could be answered on the station's website, so the banner would read... "What's your favorite video game?" then under it, it would have a bunch of answers people wrote scrolling up; who the hell cares about that crap? I'm trying to watch X-play, not read the results of a survey! My god, they already have commercial breaks every 8 minutes, but now they have to show me their crap DURING the show i want to watch?? Have mercy!
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Yeah, I hate those commercials where they dramatize everything and a new thing comes out.
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Originally posted by Xybris Xybris wrote:

Originally posted by Prometheus Prometheus wrote:


3- "Let's adjust our regular programming volume for a median-equivalent of a quiet room conversation. Now, when commercials for our sponsors and the network come on, let's boost the volume to approximately 120dB, so that not only do they hear it as they leave to do more meaningful things than to be barked at about how they must buy a new car NOW and watch American A-hole, but also so that they can receive numerous noise complaints from the entire block as we get our advertiser's message through."
 
This. Watching a show at a normal volume level and all is good. Commercial comes on at 150% normal volume- unacceptable. This should be a fine-worthy offense. The state lottery commercials where I live are the worst about this.
Especially when you're watching a movie where they have an actress who whispers everything she says so you have to crank up the volume just to make out what she's saying then you get the overly loud moron screaming in the commercials. This is close to another pet peeve of mine. The movie itself they have the whispering actress then they have the orchestra volume set to "Wake The Dead".
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Table conversations where a family discusses the amount of fiber or other nutrients the food they are eating has.

"Oh, but honey, look! This is high in fiber, and has all the essential vitamins and minerals you need! I'm just surprised it tastes SO good!"

What kind of batsh*t insane family do you need to be a part of to have scenarios like that pop up at the dinner (or breakfast) table?
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Originally posted by Snesgamer Snesgamer wrote:

Table conversations where a family discusses the amount of fiber or other nutrients the food they are eating has.

"Oh, but honey, look! This is high in fiber, and has all the essential vitamins and minerals you need! I'm just surprised it tastes SO good!"

What kind of batsh*t insane family do you need to be a part of to have scenarios like that pop up at the dinner (or breakfast) table?


My mother is a nutritionist and natural chef. Barring the surprise over food tasting so good, this kind of conversation goes on in my parents' house all the freakin' time!LOL
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I love the extra programming choices of cable TV. I have resisted for all these years, finally broke down and got it when I got married and we moved into a real house. It like to watch Discovery, National Geo , and the Science Channel. It seems half their commercials are for other shows on their network! Sometimes they even run commercials for the very show you are watching! Disapprove  Yes, thank you, Science Channel for letting me know about the show "How It's Made", I happen to be watching it right now. 
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The mascot guys in the big rubber suits with just their heads sticking out appear to be on the wane. I think the Burger King commercials with the hamburger family was the last ones i've seen.
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Originally posted by Snesgamer Snesgamer wrote:

Table conversations where a family discusses the amount of fiber or other nutrients the food they are eating has.

"Oh, but honey, look! This is high in fiber, and has all the essential vitamins and minerals you need! I'm just surprised it tastes SO good!"

What kind of batsh*t insane family do you need to be a part of to have scenarios like that pop up at the dinner (or breakfast) table?
 
You said it. That would have driven me crazy when I was a kid. Our breakfast was normal, thank God. Mom would drink scotch out of her coffee cup and dad would flick lit cigarettes at us while yelling about missing the schoolbus.
 
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Thank You  Prometheus!

I was coming to gripe about:
1. Loud commercials 2. Banner ads during programs 3. also "Cheese-wrapper" News-channel format.
Commercial advertisers make commercials loud because they know people are heading for the kitchen for a snack (or bathroom) and want to make sure you hear them!
I have had to learn to mute the volume before I go to the kitchen... even if I stay it is easier to hit "MUTE" then turn it down and then turn it back up Screw them! they kind of defeated they're purpose BOOBS!
Talk about the invasive banner ads in programs: I was watching, sorry, trying to watch Starship troopers III with Jolene Blaylock on TBS and for 7 of the 8 mins I had 30% of the screen blocked with and ad for the "NEW George Lopez show". I finally had enough and called TBS and "peachtree Movies" and asked them if they were:" F***ing crazy?" and soon after out of disgust I changed the channel and went to BLOCKBUSTER AND FRIGGIN" RENTED IT! Great job TBS! By the way this was 3 am for a premiere 3 weeks away who at 3am gives a rip about a program 3 weeks in advanced and is so retarted that they need it displayed for 80 mins of a 95min movie? I love George Lopez but I am so pissed I will not watch his show out of spite! D***heads!
FOX & CNN do we really need a large format cheese-wrapper displayed while I am trying to see what is going on in a video during a news story? You screwed the first gulf war up with your damn cheese-wrappers! I am trying to see the WAR footage and I see for most of the screen"FOXS NEWS FOX BREAKING NEWS WAR IN IRAQ" blah blah blah, if I watch your network it was because I chose it out of the others! the equally annoying little station Icon in the lower right corner, is enough. They had an Iranian guy on and his translated dialogue was BLOCKED by the cheese wrapper! F***ing idiots!!!!!!!!!
and one more thing cutting to commercial at a peak moment in a program or movie: Spike had the Star Wars movies on and just as Darth Vader steps away from the table and hearing he killed his little honey he starts saying: "NOOOOO" and then BOOM! COMMERCIAL!!!!!!!!!!! WTF????? Let the brother finish, let it sink in! I have not watched SPIKE SINCE Screw you SPIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My most hated are the ones that have a "regular" person telling you about the product. The ad tries to make it like they're your buddy just having a casual conversation. They even have scripted "ums" and "uhs." Some of the current Ford ones (not the ones with the Dirty Jobs guy) do this. Like the one with the chick who says "it's only a 4-cylinder, but this thing hauls!"

I really hate car commercials in general.
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Similar to what bentley said, but I hate it when they have 2 or more people talking like they are just shooting the breeze and this obviously placed ad fits their chat perfectly. Most often, this is seen in birth control commercials, such as Nuva Ring or Yaz. It usually has just one woman (yes, usually a woman) absolutely killing the ears of the others she is talking to.  And, of course, they chip in a little bit to make it look like a real chat that they'd be having out at a bar or while watching a chick flick or something.  Examples:

Best example: http://www.nuvaring.com/Consumer/watchTVCommercials/index.asp


Then there's this little gem...


The women are just sitting there, getting their ears raped, and it just looks so weird to see them nodding over and over, randomly throwing in a smile, and then the epic line "I didn't go to medical school for nothing!" Oh please just shut up now. Ugh. Have you ever seen a more condescending scene?


Also, the following is not quite a technique that needs to die, but it is something that often annoys me. Ever noticed how ads always cut from major scene to major scene without showing what would have occurred during the dead time (also seen a lot in movies)? I sometimes imagine how the time between the 2 scenes would have connected, and quite often it turns out that if it were to happen normally, the humor that would have occurred would not have made sense, or the obvious topic of conversation would have caused great confusion. 
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